Thread: Defender Swivel Housing

Drivers side has 1, pass side has 2.

If I understand the question correctly, since the LH swivel housing connects to both the drag link and tie rod, and the RH swivel to the tie rod only, the answer is the two arms on the left.

John

Thanks guys, that's the way I had it but no harm double checking.
Next issue:

- In the Haynes manual it refers to a bearing load of 3.6kg to 4.5kg for the swivel pin housing.
In another manual I have it says 1.16kg to 1.46kg resistance. which is correct?

- the torque settings in the two manuals differ as well for the lower and upper swivel pin bolts, Haynes says 25nm lower and 38nm upper and the other manual says 78nm for both lower and upper. The lower bolts are smaller and I have tightened to 60nm but I 'm sure if I tighten anymore they will break

- On the swivel assembly the illustration indicates a retaining plate and washer and then the seal. No issues with the plate and seal just wandering what that washer would look like. Is it a gasket, a plate or can one use a sealant or gasket maker?

Thanks for the help, much appreciated

Originally Posted by GyroLandy

Thanks guys, that's the way I had it but no harm double checking.
Next issue:

- In the Haynes manual it refers to a bearing load of 3.6kg to 4.5kg for the swivel pin housing.
In another manual I have it says 1.16kg to 1.46kg resistance. which is correct?

- the torque settings in the two manuals differ as well for the lower and upper swivel pin bolts, Haynes says 25nm lower and 38nm upper and the other manual says 78nm for both lower and upper. The lower bolts are smaller and I have tightened to 60nm but I 'm sure if I tighten anymore they will break

- On the swivel assembly the illustration indicates a retaining plate and washer and then the seal. No issues with the plate and seal just wandering what that washer would look like. Is it a gasket, a plate or can one use a sealant or gasket maker?

Thanks for the help, much appreciated

both are correct 4.5kg is the maximum pull to over come the inital resistance and get it moving (measured from the tie rod hole on the swivel housing) and 1.5kg is the maximum pull to keep it moving. Odds are you wont get it dead right and/or wont have the gear to measure it properly so as long as you dont need a stupid amount of force to move it and when it does move it offers some resistance and doesnt "notch" as it moves youve pretty much got it right. rave lists the 1.5kg nmber without an initial pull value.

Rave says the swivel pin bolts get tightened to 78nm with locktite 270.

the washer that I think that you are talking about is a metal plate identical in shape to the seal retaining plate but made of a softer metal IMHO over rated.

Thanks! Do you know how I can distinguish between the two plates mentioned in point three. How would I know which is the gasket and which is the retaining plate?

easy look at the plates, the one that is the thicker or harder of the 2 will be the plate wich means that the other one is the gasket.

the plate will also have the following features

paint (where its not rusty)
rust (where its not painty)
scratch marks on one face where tools have been used to remove the bolts
burrs from where the spring washers have dug in

the gasket will also have an imprint on it from the main housing on one side from where its been sitting against the main swivel housing.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

both are correct 4.5kg is the maximum pull to over come the inital resistance and get it moving (measured from the tie rod hole on the swivel housing) and 1.5kg is the maximum pull to keep it moving. Odds are you wont get it dead right and/or wont have the gear to measure it properly so as long as you dont need a stupid amount of force to move it and when it does move it offers some resistance and doesnt "notch" as it moves youve pretty much got it right. rave lists the 1.5kg nmber without an initial pull value.

Rave says the swivel pin bolts get tightened to 78nm with locktite 270.

the washer that I think that you are talking about is a metal plate identical in shape to the seal retaining plate but made of a softer metal IMHO over rated.

Interesting you say 4.5kg, i have read on other sites that it is higher than this ??? here is one example Land Rover Forum I posted this somewhere else today too.

Matt.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

both are correct 4.5kg is the maximum pull to over come the inital resistance and get it moving (measured from the tie rod hole on the swivel housing) and 1.5kg is the maximum pull to keep it moving. Odds are you wont get it dead right and/or wont have the gear to measure it properly so as long as you dont need a stupid amount of force to move it and when it does move it offers some resistance and doesnt "notch" as it moves youve pretty much got it right. rave lists the 1.5kg nmber without an initial pull value.

Rave says the swivel pin bolts get tightened to 78nm with locktite 270.

the washer that I think that you are talking about is a metal plate identical in shape to the seal retaining plate but made of a softer metal IMHO over rated.

when I set mine up for the Disco I didn't have the gear to set it up properly and did it by feel , when turning the Swivel housing the tension offfered some resistance didn't require a Great deal of force to rotate the swivel housing.

so far it's been fine.