Thread: FC 101 Swivel Hub Lubricant - Toyo Cruiser too

The one shot semi-liquid grease is intended for use with swivels that originally were designed for oil, and the idea is that it is less prone to leaking, so I believe it would be OK. Note however that it is packaged in quantities that are right for the 90/110/RR/Disco swivels, and as you point out the 101 has larger swivels, so you need to get the quantity right.

Worth noting that an often overlooked point is that lack of swivel preload will cause seals to leak, as the seal is no longer held tight against the ball, particularly on rebound.

John

Rather than "oneshot" could just squirt a fair quantity of molydisulphide into the swivel... Thas what most CVs run in all over the world. Use a calibrated amount of course

In regards to the tojo, if its for rego, they can be roughy fixed by cutting the top of the swivel wiper/seal and felt. The clamping ring is cut anyways... That way you can change the seals without removing anything other than the road wheel (and old seal). Not textbook but will stop the leak.

Can maybe change the 101 seals this way too?

Steve

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Rather than "oneshot" could just squirt a fair quantity of molydisulphide into the swivel... Thas what most CVs run in all over the world. Use a calibrated amount of course ......
Steve

I can't remember the setup in the 101, but use of grease in the swivels of most Landrovers is not a good idea, not because of poor lubrication of the CV joint, but because of poor lubrication of the upper swivel bush, which will run dry and then fail.

John

fair enough... maybe a calibrated blend of old oil and new moly will limit a leak and still look after the swivel bush?

S

Originally Posted by roverrescue

fair enough... maybe a calibrated blend of old oil and new moly will limit a leak and still look after the swivel bush?

S

It's called "home made oneshot". Nothing wrong with it at all as long as you get the proportions reasonably correct to end up with sufficient liquidity.

Actually, the the MoS2 in the grease is probably not necessary when converted to a semiliquid grease, as the whole idea of the solid lubricant is so that there is still some lubrication when the grease is pushed aside - with the semiliquid grease, it just flows back again, so this "emergency" lubricant is not needed (but shouldn't hurt).

John

Originally Posted by garrycol

The 101 has larger swivel hubs and different CVs to other landies. Being early 70s design I assume that the hubs have oil in them - well that is what is weeping out.

The balls are not the greatest with a couple of marks and a little surface rust which I will clean up - as indicated they do weep a bit and I really do not want to pull them apart at this stage.

Does anyone know if one shot grease is OK for the 101 CVs and is it less prone to weeping out through the seals than oil.

Also my family has recently been given an 89 toyo cruiser with the same issue and it needs to go for rego - anyone know if the same will work for the cruiser - we want to offload it asap but it will need a pink slip.

Thanks

Garry

All Toymotas have greased CV's. Moly grease is usually used. If the swivel is leaking, contact someone like Don Kyatts or FWD Motors and get a swivel seal kit. Kits normally contain all seals and bearings plus grease.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

... but because of poor lubrication of the upper swivel bush, which will run dry and then fail.

John

Garry

On Penrite's US website about 18 months ago they were recommending Semi-fluid grease for series Land Rover swivels, although the recommendation no longer appears.

Regarding the problem of the swivel pins, as with series vehicles using freewheeling hubs, many people have drilled "greaseways" and fitted grease nipples into the top Railco pin to maintain a level of lubrication not available with the design.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Garry

On Penrite's US website about 18 months ago they were recommending Semi-fluid grease for series Land Rover swivels, although the recommendation no longer appears.

Regarding the problem of the swivel pins, as with series vehicles using freewheeling hubs, many people have drilled "greaseways" and fitted grease nipples into the top Railco pin to maintain a level of lubrication not available with the design.

I'm not too sure how well the cross and bearing joints get lubricated in a grease filled swivel either - I can visualise the joint carving out the grease and eventually running dry.

John