Thread: Running tubeless on tube type rims

yep its the law....

dig deep enough into the critera for testing and fitting and the tyre will have a reccomended rim profile which includes every naffing detail about the bits that the rubber touches and maintains pressure, IF your not doing exactly whats tested your against the law... If your against the law your insurance can refuse to pay up in total if the tyre had any previlance in the accident.

However due to the excelence of laywers and loopholes you can get away with a lot.

The semantics of this argument are pretty much moot as the number of variables involved in working out what caused what to fail and why is huge.

Ive run tubes in tyres that arent ment to have them and had no problems.
Ive run tyres that are ment to have tubes without them and not had problems.
Ive done the same on rims....

in shear bloody minded desperation ive run underwidth rubber on over width rims and vice versa.

In "just to prove that as a Landrover driver my book of tricks is bigger than you can imagine MR bloody toyota driver" Ive even fitted a tubed tyre tubless on a toyota split rim and made it hold air enough to get the toyota home.


so for the person who asked the question in the first place.....

are you asking whats legal?
or
are you asking what doable?

put enough effort into it and you can make anything work.

Originally Posted by PAT303

I said no BS.Give me a fact,how can one stay on and not the other. Pat

No BS, it is againt the law

Originally Posted by rick130

I think I could cope except for the highlighted bit

You're concerned about unrestrained toenail growth?

Cheers
Simon

Originally Posted by mcrover

No BS, it is againt the law

If you want to bring in the law bit I would bet a weeks wage that 50% of cars on the road would not pass a pit inspection for roadworthy so that is not an answer.I want an answer to the question ask. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

If you want to bring in the law bit I would bet a weeks wage that 50% of cars on the road would not pass a pit inspection for roadworthy so that is not an answer.I want an answer to the question ask. Pat

Your VERY wrong Pat...................More like 90% would fail if done to the enth degree

I think Rovercare is probably closer. From time to time service organisations undertake checks of cars at shopping centres - and even their cursory checks typically find around 50% unroadworthy.

Interestingly, the most common defect is tyres - and the problem is usually tread depth or inflation, nothing to do with type of rim or tubes/tubeless.

But if we look just at deliberate modifications from design specification, then PAT is possibly closer. There are a number of very common modifications that are certainly illegal - just to give one example is HID bulb conversions. For that matter, simply fitting higher wattage bulbs is almost certainly just as illegal as running tubeless tyres on rims not approved for them. So is running tyres at any pressure other than that placarded on the car or approved by the vehicle manufacturer and tyre manufacturer (of course there is a question when the tyre and vehicle manufacturer give different figures!).

Unfortunately, we have so many laws and legally binding regulations affecting almost every aspect of life that it is literally impossible for anyone to learn them all in one lifetime, let alone comply with them all. But "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

John