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    the 4bd1(t) is mechanically the same size as the td5 the hardest parts will be mounting it to the transmission, mounting it to the chassis and then working the ECU to allow abs/ tc keep working.

    Im personally now starting research into a detroit 3 53 series and and aircooled Same 4 pot turboed air cooled diesel.

    as for the new vs old + repaired head...

    short version...

    go OEM its worth it for the peace of mind and the warrenty.

    long version.

    Assuming you mean a driven till it gave up and stopped cooking where the temp gauge lived permanantly in the red and it was shown no remorse and probabley even run without any coolant

    Id want to know just how hot, how much warpage the hardness especially around the valve facing and stem junction points. Then Id want a full magnetic flux test done to make sure its not already damaged and Id probabley want a ultrasound to to make sure that theres no obscure densitiy changes near cooling jackets that are just begging to come up and make a crack of themselves.

    Assuming the initial warpage was less than say 10 thou and the cam journal warp followed the warp of the head Id look into heat softening and pressing the head back to flat then going onto the next bit. That cams not an itsy bit of proper metal and its not exactly pushing on bic pen springs when its doing its job, especially the injector lobe. I cant see it lasting long if the cam is more than 1/2 its bearing clearance out over its length.

    if it was warped and the cam was straight, id use a fine wet grind using a plate stone thats at least 2/3's the size of the head face to bring the face back to flat then repeat the magnetic flux test before bolting it down on a thinsheet gasket on a flat plate bring it up to torque for fixing (using the old bolts) cook it up, give it some pressure then retest. If everything got past all that then ID reharden it, mag test it and install it....

    by the time you naff around doing all of that and pay for all the testing (unless you happen to have both boeing and TAE next to your workshop with guys who like to explain how their job works on test pieces or happen to have your own magnetic flux tester, metal ultrasound imager, big enough grinding machines, hydraulic presses, engineering plates your willing to drill holes in to mount up the head to so you can do it on the cheap) its cheaper to get a new head.

    If you get a reco head. I still think a mag flux test, ultrasound and a hardness test are mandatory BUT Id reverse the order, hardness test first then the mag flux then an ultrasound.

    Id buy an OEM head and refit all the old parts its cheaper than trying to bring broken to the standard I expect.
    Dave

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    just a thought......

    theres heaps of room to bolt a series 2.25 into the engine bay, doesnt get much more dinosaur than that, unless he wants to go steam....
    Dave

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    Hi all,

    I'm just about to convert a glow plug so I can prussurise each cylinder with compressed air. Hopefully then I can isolate the cylinder and area that the problem is in. Then I'll pull the head and have a good look. Does anyone know the chances of the problem being in the block?

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    I wouldn't think it was very likely.

    There are still questions that you havent answered though from almost the first post that may well help decide whats wrong.

    Did you change the head bolts being the most important?

    What happened with the overheat. How hot did it get....? etc

    Be aware aswell that only 4 cylinders have glow plugs.

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    Only ever owned landys Ed Guest
    Good point with the glow plugs (I didn't think of that). All bolts were changed with new ones. I don't know about the overheat as it could have happend when one of my staff were driving, and to get a straight answer out of one of them will be impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Only ever owned landys Ed View Post
    , and to get a straight answer out of one of them will be impossible.
    Know what you mean!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    Know what you mean!!
    You are obviously in my world!!!! I have a deutz tractor that the ignition stayed on and trashed the starter and loom. They only stopped when she started smoking. I think the comment was "it was a bit noisy for a while". You've got to love the care staff have for equipment

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    I dont have staff as such but the amount of 'freinds' who have done similar things is ridiculous...... like driving with the main engine warning light on and a 'funny' smell for about 200km! Thankfully not one of my cars...

    How you getting on with the LR?

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    this is not that relevant as ours was a 200tdi but when we had ours skimmed we had to get a ever so slightly thicker gasket I believe to accomidate the fact that the head had been skimmed....
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




  10. #40
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    HI dullbird,

    I have put the correct size gaket in. I think the gasket sizes would only change the compression. You are right that the more you skim the thicker the gasket but I don't think this would have a implication on the pressurisation of the cooling system.

    Cheers Ed

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