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    NSW and body swaps

    In NSW if I take a Series body and put it onto a RRC/Disco/Def coiler chassis - does this mean for rego that I have put a new chassis under an old body... or have I put an old body onto a new chassis.

    I ask as there are some significant implications re registration and modification rules as one way would predate the 1970 VSI's and the other way would have to comply with the 1970+ VSIs and ADRs etc.

    Would running the engine that came with the chassis also influence this?
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    As far as I know, the chassis is the key.

    If you have an old chassis, then the rules of the time apply (good).

    It's when you have a newer chassis than the body, especially when ADRs apply, that you have headaches (which is what you want to do).
    I'm planning on using an early RR chassis for something similar soon.
    Scott

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    Simon

    There used to be an RTA fact sheet dealing with this issue, which I can't find ATM.

    The chassis and running gear are considered the main identity of the vehicle but the body can be treated as a separate component.

    In short:
    • the body and it's fittings must comply with the ADR in place when the body was first manufactured (information displayed on the compliance plate). All the standard fittings of the body if unchanged are considered approved and don't need engineers reports for each item.
    • The chassis and running gear must comply with the ADR when the chassis was first manufactured (as above). And the attachments for the new body must similarly comply with those ADR (engineers report).
    • If the body is older than the chassis, the body components (seating, seat belt anchorages, steering mountings etc) must comply with the ADR in place at the time the chassis was manufactured.


    It helps if you have the compliance plates for both the chassis and body.

    Diana

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    Scott and Diana thanks so much for this. It all adds to the fun, and it'll make things a little more interesting in the planning. Its good that the body retains its compliance date and the chassis it's own also - makes sense really. I trolled around on the RTA's website trying to find the relevant information but likewise couldn't find anything.
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    I'd be interested in what the rules are for this in SA. Being completely new to the country you can teach me to suck as many eggs as you like, it will all probably be new information to me.

    Background is that when I get settled I'd really like to make a good tourer/trialer vehicle. Most likely options are:

    - RR or Disco with rear end cropped down to improve departure angles.
    - RR or Disco with series body, but again chopped down.
    - RR or Disco base with space frame cage and custom panels (mainly) (well actually not a tourer I'd guess
    - Series with TDI or V8 engine. (again, probably not a tourer )

    many thanks.

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    It is an interesting question that I would like to put independently to a number of Qld. Transport officers to see how many different answers you get. They can't agree on whether roof top lights are legal or not, can be used on public roads or not, or if legal, the method and location of switching.
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    If its on a RR chasis it will have to comply with the ADR's of the year that chasis was made ...
    If it has an engin upsize of more than 20% it will need approval and maby a brake upgrade it will also need 2 speed wipers and a demister and over shoulder/lap belts ..
    The best thing is to speak to a good engineer the 2 guys up here are great and verry helpfull mick has some wild mods in the pipeline for the county and he spoke to the local guy and all is good as long as we do it how he wants it which is a no brainer

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    Hi Guys,

    FWIW in Brackistan it is relatively straight forward to put a newer RRC body on an older chassis (if the door count is the same). If the colour is different it is just classed as a colour change. (read between the lines there re: notification, that is what I did on the advice of an gov employee / friend who checked it right out for me).

    There are no serial numbers on older RRC bodies, and the rule of thumb is that you can't put an older body on a newer chassis without grief, which is what sounds is the national approach with ADR's.

    cheers, DL

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    i agree with scouse, ian, the guy who owns redneck hills (slunnie will know where i mean) put his series 2 on a 130 coil sprung chassis with a 300 tdi in it. he had to comply with the specs of the 130 for rego
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    Yep, it's the ADR's listed for the chassis (or year of compliance). As Brian stated, ask 10 different inspectors and you'd probably get 10 different answers. I'd be speaking with an Engineering Signatory for the answer - after all, your proposal will/will not be signed off by him.

    The RTA did list the guidelines for light vehicle modifications but when i last spoke with the engineering section (a fortnight ago) they were being updated and so some information sheets were not available on the NSW RTA website.

    Sounds like a great project

    Matt

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