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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post

    I would like to know if centrifical filters could be adapted to fit onto the 300TDi motors.
    In short - yes.

    Mann+Hummel (UK) make the centrifugal filter. They sell a generic kit AFAIK, but it is quite $$$, so it would probably be cheaper to adapt one from a TD5.

    However if you aren't going to extend your oil change intervals after fitting there probably isn't a great deal of benefit.



    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    The other thing I have noticed, is that the fresh oil also helps keep fuel consumption down...
    I cannot see how you have sufficient evidence to demonstrate this??? Unless you also have an identical vehicle which has longer oil change intervals???

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    thanks JC

    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Arthur, Due to the 300Tdi not having much of a sooting problem, (and I stress this mostly applies to non tweaked examples), I wouldn't think it entirely necessary. The modern diesel oils are excellent, if you are changing at less than 10K and not driving it like you stole it or conversely not idling it around town all day, I would leave it as is.
    A centrifugal filter on a Toyota 3L, 5L or any of the H series engines would probably help THEM though

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    Hi Justin
    Thanks for that info, Yes my missus does drive likes she owns it, but then to think about it, She does own it!!!
    Cheers Arthur

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    economical ?

    I cannot see how you have sufficient evidence to demonstrate this??? Unless you also have an identical vehicle which has longer oil change intervals???[/QUOTE]

    Hi Isuzurover

    I'm afraid my case would be thrown out of court due to the lack of evidence!!
    It is only my observation that a tankful of diesel lasts nearly 800Klms after a recent oil change and drops back to under 700klms when its due again.
    If it not an indication of the oil becoming tacky, it must be a correlation between the opening of the wallet and the weight of the right boot.

    Cheers Arthur

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post

    It is only my observation that a tankful of diesel lasts nearly 800Klms after a recent oil change and drops back to under 700klms when its due again.
    Ah - OK - fair enough. Soot does increase (effective viscosity) of oil. However your test is confounded by the fact that you know you have changed the oil. Only if the driver did not know the oil had been changed (or you measured BSFC on a dyno instead) would you know conclusively that oil changed reduce fuel consumption.

    Interesting observation though. Can't say I have noticed myself.

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    Dangerous game

    [QUOTE=isuzurover;1426157] Only if the driver did not know the oil had been changed (or you measured BSFC on a dyno instead) would you know conclusively that oil changed reduce fuel consumption.
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    This would mean keeping a secret from the #### wife #### a very dangerous game in my camp !!
    But it would be possible to use our fuel dockets to check the fuel consumtions as the route she takes to work and see her mother, are fairly predictable .

    Getting back to the question, thanks for the info about the centrifical filter.
    Cheers Arthur
    ps must go back to the lawnmower

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    Just saw this:

    Quote Originally Posted by MANN+HUMMEL
    Next generation of oil centrifuges


    Extended service life for engine oil and oil filters with MANN+HUMMEL centrifuges

    At the BAUMA trade fair, MANN+HUMMEL will present two new oil centrifuges for oil filtration in the bypass. This enables solutions for small engines where installation of the centrifuge can only be made away from the engine and also for engines with a low oil pressure. Both centrifuges improve the oil filtration in the bypass and enable longer oil change intervals and an extended oil filter service life.

    Ludwigsburg, 19th April, 2010 – in Munich, MANN+HUMMEL will present two new oil centrifuges for bypass oil filtration. The specific design of both centrifuges enables new applications. One centrifuge is for low pressure oil circuits and the other is for industrial machines not equipped with a compressed air supply. As a result, these applications will be able to benefit from the special advantages of bypass oil filtration. The most important advantages are a longer oil filter service life and longer filter change intervals with the same low level of engine wear.

    Oil centrifuges for the low pressure range
    In the development of modern engines there is a trend towards low pressure oil circuits. The new centrifuge from MANN+HUMMEL takes this into account. The centrifuge achieves its high filtration efficiency already at pressures below 4 bar – also with the smallest of particles. The oil centrifuge is equipped with a special, patented combination of a bearing with a plastic rotor which reduces the existing frictional and flow losses to a minimum. This enables a high rotation speed, also at low pressure conditions in the oil circuit.

    In comparison, conventional centrifuges are driven by engine oil pressure. They achieve their highest filtration efficiency when the centrifuges are driven with hot oil and high pressure of 4 to 8 bar. This is the only way to achieve the maximum rotation speed and the resulting high centrifugal force necessary to separate fine particles such as soot particles in the submicron range from the oil. If these conventional centrifuges are fitted to a diesel engine with a low oil pressure of approx. 2 to 4 bar, they can only realise a reduced separation efficiency.

    Ventrifuge – centrifuges for mobile industrial machines
    In the ideal case centrifuges for bypass filtration are fitted directly to the engine to facilitate the return oil flow. However, limited installation space may require installation of the centrifuge away from the engine. In such cases it is necessary to support the return oil flow with compressed air. But small industrial machines are frequently not equipped with the means of compressed air. Therefore installation away from the engine is more difficult and this has so far excluded many application areas, e.g. small mobile industrial machines.

    The new oil centrifuge "FM025 Venturi" has now overcome these disadvantages. Its compact design and function enables use also with such applications. The Venturi technology allows the cleaned oil to also pass through smaller outlet pipes back to the oil sump without the support of compressed air. In contrast to conventional centrifuges, the efficient and economic function of this centrifuge does not require large connection pipes or the availability of compressed air.

    In addition, the new design allows high rotation speeds up to 9000 rpm at an oil pressure of 2 to 7 bar. The high centrifugal force generated in this way enables efficient separation of also the finest particles and therefore extended service intervals and low engine wear. The current version is equipped with a metal rotor suitable for cleaning and there are plans for a version with a recyclable, disposable plastic rotor.

    Centrifuges offer a quick return on your investment:
    Improved oil purity leads to longer oil change intervals and therefore lower disposal costs. And the service life of the oil filter is extended. Lower engine wear results in less engine downtime and the maximum period of use for vehicles, engines and machines. MANN+HUMMEL has more than 30 years experience in the field of bypass filtration with centrifuges. Today, the company is one of the leading suppliers worldwide. The use of oil centrifuges efficiently separates contaminants such as soot and metal abrasion particles from the lubricating oil of diesel engines. This technology can also be effectively applied to gearboxes, hydraulics systems and other industrial applications. MANN+HUMMEL centrifuges use centrifugal force to clean the oil which is 2000 times greater than that of gravity. In this way solid particles are separated from the oil – a process which has been verified to enable the separation of dirt particles finer than 1 micron.

    MANN+HUMMEL Group > The Company > Press

    And what should be the tech data:
    http://www.mann-hummel.com/diesel-em...BIRBV_ayrv.pdf

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    I am considering an India made centrifuge filter in addition to a paper filter. The particular model is on this US site

    SCC20 WVO Centrifuge at Fryer To Fuel
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    Keep your chin up jf1056, I respect your inititive and independent thinking. Not everyone on here are against you. You have made a serious modification and it has worked. We need to remember that we have the same basic interest and we are a minority.......direct all angst towards Toyota!!!!!!
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