Thread: TD5/D2 remote oil filter

I have done this for the 300tdi in the S1 disco I had as well as the TD5 in the S2 disco I now have. I also did it for the Nissan Z30 motor in a Patrol (no, I do not want to discuss this ownership, needless to say I now have a S2, OK!!)
I used standard remote adapters available from just about all "speed" shops (Rare Spares in Sydney). Both motors have the same configuration that allows a normal Ryco Z9 Ford filter to screw on. The main things I made sure that would do the job was to get hose and fittings from Pirtek that will handle up to 300psi. Not that it will get to this pressure more a case of they will not come off at the wroung time.
The 300tdi was easy to do with putting the remote filter on a bracket that sat on the drivers side fender so I could put an ice cream tub under to catch the oil.
The TD5 was a completly different matter. Putting the adapter on is easy after you remove the turbo so you have room to work in. Routing the hose between the turbo and the centrifical filter return pipe and the turbo oil return pipe is challenging to say the least but can be done. The higher pressure hose is able to withstand the heat better and with some hose protecter wrap from Pirtek, then no issue.
I put the remote bracket with one bolt through an existing hole in the front passenger side chassis rail just above the steel water pipe for the coolling. This was placed horizontily so when the filter unscrews the only mess is over one track rod straight into the pan. Very easy to wipe the rod after and screw a standard Z9 filter on. The Z9 is nearly twice the capacity of the standard LR filter and has a drain back and bypass valve in it.
Whilst I have been very happy with this setup, the hose did chaff a little after 15,000k's so a modified again after a lot of research. The centrifical filter on the TD5 is a sort of after thought from the designers to enable oil to be "flung" and then deposit larger lumps to the outside. Only 10% max of the oil flow actually goes through this filter. The research became more ernest when the "o" ring at the back of this filter decided to leak. The final conclusion was to remove the centrifical filter altogether, make up blanking plates for the reurn pipe and for the outlet. This was easy with a jigsaw and a 10mm gal plated piece of lintel iron from Bunnings. ($15). 100% of the oil now goes through the Z9 filter.
Now with the centrifical filter gone there is a heap of room in front of the turbo. This is where I now ran the hoses's down to the remote filter. I was able to shorten the hoses some 400mm and have a more dirct flow and minimal bending. This also took the hoses completely away from the turbo/exhaust heat.
In the 20k odd kilometres since doing this, I have not had any issues after removing the centrifical filter.
I do and always have, changed the filter and the oil every 5000k's anyway, probably overkill. The filtering area of the Z9 compared to the original LR filter plus the centrifical filter is only slightly less and with the shorter change time no problem. I also use Penrite 5w/40 diesel oil semi synthetic.
I have saved on the cost of a LR filter, even Ryco brand, the Z9 is around $6 compared to LR at $22. The additional capacity of the Z9 and hose raises total capacity around 300ml, I put in a measured 8.4l of oil when I do the change. I also do not get 3rd degree burns anymore or need to degrease the motor afterwards. Interestingly a mate of mine works at Grahme Coopers and tells me they include into the cost of an oil change, an engine degrease and wash down!!!!
For those worried about damage to the filter now that it is lower, the remote filter is tucked up at chassis level and will not get damaged off road, believe me I have tried!!!

So there you go, yes you can, yes it has been done!!! The cheaper filter, ease of getting at it and no centrifical filter to do, it costs me around $95 for 10l of the penrite and a Z9. Done every 5000k is still cheap motoring and good insurance.

I assume pictures would help, when I get out of this office and home I will take some photos of the TD5 install and post up. I think I have some photos of the 300tdi, so I will put them up as well.

cheers,
Jack (jf1056)

Thanks for the reply Jack. Would you be able to give me a part number of the items used (adapter at old filter site, and new boss to screw Z9 to)? Also prices if possible?

I am soon to remove turbo and manifold to do re-stud and gasket, so would like to do it all at the same time.

Will

why in the name of zues's sypilictic sphincter would you take the centrifuge filter out of a TD5?

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

why in the name of zues's sypilictic sphincter would you take the centrifuge filter out of a TD5?

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

why in the name of zues's sypilictic sphincter would you take the centrifuge filter out of a TD5?

Agreed. I won't be removing mine...

The centrifugal filter is more efficent will take out smaller particles down to 1 micron where as the normal filter is around 10 micron anything smaller goes through and into the motor plus extends the oil change interval.

Woa, I did not think any ones sphincter would be brought into question or involved!!!!

My centrifuge housing was cracked, thats why it was ultimately leaking (forgot to say) and the cost was just plain stupid to replace so after research did away with it. If you don't want to take yours out, leave it in. The remote setup can still be done, just needs hose to be longer and protection from chaff and heat.
And like I said only 10% goes through it, a bigger filter is now on and the oil gets changed every 5000k's. If you want to leave oil in a diesel longer than 5000k's, go for it. I can't say I have seen any other diesel motors with a centrifical filter, so that makes around 99.99% of diesels ever built don't have it. In all the trucks, tractors and other farm equipment that I still own, they have had the filters and oil changed at either 500ks or 100 hours. All my gear has over 500000k on them and will last even longer. The D2 has 190000 on it and the oil at 5000 is still very clean and so is the head and block areas.
Good maintenance regularly with quality oil will let any diesel last a long time, regardless of wether a centrifuge filter is on or not. Even when it was still on, the changes were done at 5000 with new filters.
With the centrifuge filter gone it just makes the remote install that much easier and without any heat issues for the hoses.

I don't know what the part numbers are, but Perma Cool are the manufacturer of the spin on adapter and remote filter head. As far as I remember there are only two types, one for a ford motor and one for a chev motor. Get the Ford one.

I have taken some photos and will post them up when I work out how.

Jack

This shows the spin on. Just noticed i need to tighten or replace the gasket on the dump pipe!
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I think you get the idea where the remote is mounted.
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