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    D2 Shaking / Wobble Steering

    Here's one for the lateral thinkers out there...

    I have a 2003 Disco 2 and are struggling with a wobbling steering wheel. It happens around 40-70 kph and more noticable when I take my foot off the accelerator... and then brake later. Further on, at about 100-110, the whole Landy shakes a fair bit. Escpecially frighting on a recent trip from Sydney to Canberra (don't know if it's just a bad road surface).

    I first noticed it when I put D3 18'' alloys on (with GY Wrangler F1 255x55 R18 109V) but later put back my 16'' wheels with BFG M/T and still could feel the wobble. Very slightly but deffinitely still there. I have subsequently changed the Shocks and Steering Damper (Bilstein), brake pads and rotors all-round and re-checked the wheel alignment and balancing.

    It's done only 130,000km now but the shaking started much earlier already. I also don't take it rough off-roading either.

    Is there anyone that experienced this or can help me sort out this issue?

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    Panhard rod bushes would be worth cheking, along with radius arm ones

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    This has come up a number of times, and a search using "shake" or "wobble" or "vibration" will find a lot of discussion.

    This sort of problem rarely has a single cause, but will be an accumulation of various problems; problem is that if you fix just one of them, it will probably go away, but it will be back, with apparently a different cause. Things to look at:-

    1. Swivel preload. This is the primary steering damping on beam axle Landrovers, and furthermore, if there is any real free play, it will show up as steering free play and camber and toein errors. Check this first.

    2. Any free movement in any of the suspension links, front or rear. Check with a pry bar to see if you can move them! Panhard rod is the most critical.

    3. Wheel balance.

    4. Steering free play - anything from tie rod ends to worn steering box to loose steering box.

    These are the most likely candidates.

    5. Loose wheel bearings

    6. Incorrect steering geometry, particularly castor and toein (actually toeout). Deliberately changed steering geometry by lifting the suspension, fitting wider wheels etc can contribute as well.

    7. Broken chassis (unlikely unless very rusty)

    8. Out of round tyres or wheels, bent wheels or wheels mounted with foreign matter on the surfaces that mate with the hub.

    Note that I have not included the steering damper, which is there mainly to check steering movement from rough roads rather than the sort of problem you have, and shock absorbers, which if in poor condition will make it worse, but should not be a cause. And remember that there is very likely to be more than one factor.

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    The first thing to do is pop the tie rod ends off and feel how much force is needed to turn the swivels,if one or both move easily then replace the swivel bearings.You should always start there and work outwards. Pat

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    Disco 2, lads. No swivel bearings - ball joints.

    Are you certain that wheel/tyre assemblies have been correctly balanced?

    I'd check the propshafts first for serviceable uni joints (especially the front one), then go searching for suspension faults.

    FWIW

    Cheers

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    Question
    1.. How long have you owned the car?

    2.. Has the car ever had a Accident .... or .... hit / mounted kerbs ???

    Mike

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    Shocks bolts may be loose, steering damper maybe shagged, loose wheel nuts.

    After a number of occasions of having this issue myself, this is where I'd start.

    I agree with Pierre

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    Question
    1.. How long have you owned the car?

    2.. Has the car ever had a Accident .... or .... hit / mounted kerbs ???

    Mike

    Hi Mike,

    I had the car since 2004 with 48000km on. Dealer bought (but that doesn't necessarily mean it's smash free) but I certainly didn't crash it.

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
    Disco 2, lads. No swivel bearings - ball joints.

    Are you certain that wheel/tyre assemblies have been correctly balanced?

    I'd check the propshafts first for serviceable uni joints (especially the front one), then go searching for suspension faults.

    FWIW

    Cheers

    Pete
    Don't D2's have live axles?. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oupoot View Post

    I had the car since 2004
    I had to ask ... as some folks have JUST bought the car and have no idea of it's true history

    Swap the rear wheels to the front
    Sometimes it is just a case of old dead tires which = buy new tyres ... Do you have someone to swap & try their known good tyres
    Lift the front end up off the ground and give ALL joints a push & pull with a crow bar
    Check the wheel bearings

    Put the front & rear (whole car) on axle stands ... Start the car and drive it static .... have a look at the front wheels turning

    Mike


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