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    Has anyone Surface Machined a 300TDi head?

    My 300TDi head is warped 0.13mm, 0.05mm over the limit, I know that you are supposed to "discard" (L/R loves that word) the head if it is warped more than 0.08mm and I know the head surface is heat treated (hardened). But I do not have the funds to buy a new head.
    So has anybody had their 300TDi head shaved and reused it, if so are there any problems, Yet, has anyone had a failure of head or gasket after doing above procedure.
    What's involved in getting the head "re hardened", can it be done, what's the word on this, any info will be most appreciated, Regards Frank.

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    Frank,
    Can't help with an answer at present but I took the head off my wife's fairlane yesterday. It is in the shop being machined. When I pick it up tomorrow I will ask them if they have ever done one.

    Dave.

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    I have had 300Tdi heads skimmed.

    Overheating events cause the heads to develop soft areas, and then they can't hold bolt clamping loads, leading to head gasket failure.

    Shops that do heat treatment of steel parts can heat treat the 300Tdi head. Get hardness tested and look for variations over the head to determine if it has developed soft areas. These shops usually have metallurgists that can give you advise.

    If it hasn't had a bad overheating and hasn't been blowing gaskets, I wouldn't worry about heat treating unless it has soft areas.

    Edit: Metalert in Carrington (Newcastle suburb) are heat treaters that have experience heat treating 300tdi heads.

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    Had mine done 3 or 4 years ago after an overheat episode. Don't know how much was taken off - I didn't think to ask. No problems since though.

    That's a fair way off the max spec. If it was only .09 or .10 you might be happier chancing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Had mine done 3 or 4 years ago after an overheat episode. Don't know how much was taken off - I didn't think to ask. No problems since though.

    That's a fair way off the max spec. If it was only .09 or .10 you might be happier chancing it.
    0.13mm is only 6 thou, 0.006", I'm hoping that I'll be able to get away with it, any idea of what a new bare head is worth or a good straight secondhand one is worth, Regards Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    0.13mm is only 6 thou, 0.006", I'm hoping that I'll be able to get away with it, any idea of what a new bare head is worth or a good straight secondhand one is worth, Regards Frank.
    Frank ,Give Triumph rover spares a call in the morning and they can tell you how much a good 2nd hand head is worth I presume that the replacement 2nd hand head would been vaccume tested and tested for soft spots , but you can certainly ask.

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    Had a look here to get some ideas on prices.

    Land Rover parts - CYLINDER HEAD PARTS

    (Just took 5thou off a TD5 head,told hardining is 7thou on these, no overheating problems.)

    Cheers.

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    I have heard of one that has had several millimeters taken off .........apparently it was a mistake and the engine reputedly goes like stink. No names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxenwane View Post
    I have heard of one that has had several millimeters taken off .........apparently it was a mistake and the engine reputedly goes like stink. No names.
    Don't see how it would improve performance - the head is flat. Though it would move the injector closer to the piston.


    Btw Tank - turner lists a genuine bare head for GBP295. But I would take John's (Bush65) advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Don't see how it would improve performance - the head is flat. Though it would move the injector closer to the piston.


    Btw Tank - turner lists a genuine bare head for GBP295. But I would take John's (Bush65) advice.
    I would have thought the increased cylinder pressures will enhance performance. As I said I heard about this from someone who saw it.

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