Hi Neil
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Lots of D2 owners on here use WDH's,,,
Its using them with air suspension that creates havoc,,,
I dont particularly agree with the concept but,, its not my car.![]()
I have heard from a number of people that I can't fit an after market WDH to my Series 2 Disco because of the ACE. Is this true? Also does any know where I can buy a height adjustable tow ball tongue?
Hi Neil
Welcome to AULRO.COM.
Lots of D2 owners on here use WDH's,,,
Its using them with air suspension that creates havoc,,,
I dont particularly agree with the concept but,, its not my car.![]()
"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.![]()
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
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If it is a Land Rover towbar it is also not recommended. If you have a Hayman Reece bar it is OK.
Having said that I also agree with Pedro. A properly set up van shouldn't require extra bits to make it towable.
Thanks for the advice. I am currently towing a 16 1/2ft pop top, but I am looking for a 19 to 20ft full van. I don't have air suspension so that shouldn't be a problem. I think I'll wait until I get the new van and see how it tows.
I have a 16ft Windsor Sunchaser goes 1.7 odd tonne fully loaded with 210kg on the ball. Have no problems towing with air suspension.
Put air bags in the coils. You loose turning circle and clearance with the wdh.
Tony![]()
Last edited by Grumpy; 8th September 2009 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Spelling
I agree with Tony, I used to tow a 1.8T Jayco 17' poptop with no need to ever consider a WDH. I added bags to keep the car level and ensured the tow-ball weight was as low as possible. You are allowed 250kg, I kept mine to around 190/200kg by balancing the load in the van, admittedly the van was tandem axle with a ball weight of 175kg empty.
Ball weight should be 10% of total weight of van so if van is 1.8 ton ball weight should be 180 KG.
Dave.
"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.![]()
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
Home is where you park it..
[IMG][/IMG]
The NSW RTA have a information pamphlet on towing trailers, and in that it even states as a general rule, towball load should be 5-10% total trailer mass.
Which is all a little ridiculous if you have a 3t trailer, I sure wouldn't be wanting up to a 300kg load on the ball. I think 5% is about all it ever should be.
Slightly off topic but still related - at times I tow a rowing boat trailer - 12.5m trailer, 13.5m with rear overhang when loaded, between 2-3t depending on load. Such a trailer is custom made, if it were to be made strictly according to ADR's, the axles have to be so far back that the ball weight was going to be about 450kg unless huge dead weights were put into the rear of the trailer. Needless to say rowing boat trailers are never 'quite' within allowed dimensions... btw I tow that with a S1 Discovery, no load distribution hitch - handles surprisingly well, overall towball load is usually around 150kg. Use polyair bags to maintain levelness.
Seano
Don't even think about it. This is an absolute recipie for disaster. If the weight balance in your van is wrong, ie. too light on the tow ball, it'll become uncontrolable. You've seen trailers, vans with the 'sways' up ? This is why. You're better off to have too much weight on the tow than too little.
Theres a real good reason why the 10% rule of thumb is there. It's called "choose life". And it is a rule of thumb; another one is........"If you can lift the draw bar on a single axle van it's probably too light".
I can't recommend polyairs too highly. Lets you set ride height, doesn't affect turning circle or draw bar articulation. You can also use them to balance your ride when heavily laden and not towing. They'll certainly stop your rear springs from flattening out. I also found them useful when crossing the Simpson Desert (not towing) as they stopped the rear suspension from bottoming out when the shockers got too hot and gave up.
Deano
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