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    It apears that the Fleetgaurd has more pleated media so better filtration?

    All I know is that I wont be touching a Fram product again. I changed the oil & filter on my 1990 Range Rover Vogue 3.9L V8 and it took 10 seconds for the oil light to go out on a cold start. I replaced the oil filter with a Mahle brand filter from my local Land Rover specialist and the oil light goes out immediatly.

    Supercheap Autos im my area has ceased selling Fram products and now sell the Ryco range.

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    One fleetguard filter will be different from another as they are made from different companies.
    Often when selling them you could some times see where they had been resprayed and were not fleetguard manufacture.
    Ryco these days are made in New Zealand and China too.
    The only company I know who make largely there own filters are Wix.
    The first people to complain about Wix filters are people on this forum because of the price of the filters and therefore are hard to get in this country.
    If you are looking for strength of the can and construction no one comes near Wix filter because of inhouse construction and you can feel this in the weight of the filters and burst pressure specs ect.
    After saying all this I use any brand of filter on my own vehicles ( except air filters) as they all work and any brand which fails in service would soon be exposed very quickly
    As for the small filters being fitted to cars these days so far as I am concerned they are nothing more than fly catchers and things that catch metal if the motor fails.
    If you want a real lube filter look at the centrifical filters fitted to heavy engines and tractors and the landrover TD5 and far as I am concerned the only ones able to catch and hold micron size dirt over time in the real world when it really counts.
    The facts are most wearing dirt particles which enter the motors oil are from induction air and poor engine reconditioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    I think the only thing it really commented on there was build quality and specs rather than filtering qualities.
    Go hand in hand wouldn't they ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
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    The only company I know who make largely there own filters are Wix.
    The first people to complain about Wix filters are people on this forum because of the price of the filters and therefore are hard to get in this country.
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    re-read my post above Ron, they all re-brand filters.
    BTW, Wix assemble the brilliant Amsoil EaO oil filters...using Donaldson media !

    But I do agree re the centrifuge filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groucho View Post
    Go hand in hand wouldn't they ?
    Not necessarily as they are unrelated qualities, but you would hope so. Like you would expect a more expensive filter to filter more to a finer level, but thats not necessarily the case either.

    I think Isuzurover found in his filter testing (thats his profession) that the OE filters were as good as they get for the TD5, so thats what I use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
    Ryco these days are made in New Zealand and China too.
    I fitted a Ryco Z479 fuel filter to my 3.9 V8 Disco today. Made in Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utemad View Post
    I fitted a Ryco Z479 fuel filter to my 3.9 V8 Disco today. Made in Israel.
    FWIW GUD (Ryco) still have plants in NZ and South Africa and source the rest of their line from wherever.
    They've been sourcing fuel filters from Israel for a long time, well before the Australian plant closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Hmm, I wonder who make them for Lucas ?

    The only filters i know that approach a nominal Beta2=6 (6 micron) are Donaldson filters using their Synteq media, Cumins/Fleetgaurd Stratapore media filters, Amsoil filters using Donaldson media and Baldwin's glass media (around beta2=7) and I'd guess some trick stuff from Mann-Hummel.
    Mustang 441 skid steer loaders, sold from 1979? to 1984, had a Cessna hydrostatic drive system. The charge filter was 40 micron and the pressure filter was 4 micron. I don't recall whose brand name was on the OEM filters. our spare parts people always had trouble sourcing after-market supplies. Our employer was notoriously tight-fisted and disliked keeping stock on the shelf so OEM filters that came from USA were not purchased in any quantity so often the spare people ran out of stock and tried to buy locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock The Rock View Post
    Had a chat to the fella at work

    There are two filters, one short and one long. Thats why we have the two different numbers
    according to cummins filtration catalog the replacements for the Z89A oil filter as used on the 300Tdi is the LF3376 (92mm high, 93.5 mm OD) ) or LF3378 same dimensions as the other but has a higher BPV setting (3376 @ 17.4 psi & 3378 @ 36.26 psi)

    The LF3311 is a little different in dimensions (95.25 mm high, 96.27 mm OD) with a lower BPV setting (7.98 psi) than the above two.

    BPV = Back Pressure Valve (I suspect that this is the back pressure at which the filter is bipassed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Hmm, I wonder who make them for Lucas ?

    The only filters i know that approach a nominal Beta2=6 (6 micron) are Donaldson filters using their Synteq media, Cumins/Fleetgaurd Stratapore media filters, Amsoil filters using Donaldson media and Baldwin's glass media (around beta2=7) and I'd guess some trick stuff from Mann-Hummel.
    Went to my local diesel bloke last week to stock up. He said cant get Lucas any more, they were bought out by DELPHI. So bought them instead. Supposed to be the same.
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    Didiman

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