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    LT95 Transfer Case Intermediate Shaft Wear

    Hello everyone, I'm in the process of rebuilding my LT 95 which destroyed iteself after the differential bolts let go.

    Anyway this is an extract from my thread, the whole post can be found here:
    Series III Stage 1 with a bit of a difference

    I started looking into assembling the transfer case, I was considering installing the intermediate shafts in the transfer case... but I found very bad wear marks on both the intermediate shafts. Below is the shaft that came out of the box I dismantled (box 1)





    Blelow is the one that came out of my car... better but still no good... The wear marks on both were on the high range gear side.





    So that is where I am at... I think i'm going to have to try and find an intermediate shaft... anyone have one kicking around by any chance?? Or is there some other way around this problem??

    Any help greatly appreciated.
    Stirling

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    Stirling they are relatively cheap and available I got my last one from All 4X4 in Newcastle.

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    You need a new one.
    If the LT95 is a shimmed one ( and probably for a taper bearing one) you also have to make sure that the gear set is long enough to fit the needle rollers in. That type of wear may be from a short gearset that has tensioned the needle rollers, although usually from swarf from shims blocking the internal oilway.
    So measure the gearset also.

    Regards Philip A

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    Jeez , I fully overhauled 100 LT95 transfer cases and never seen or heard of a center diff snapping its case bolts . PhillipA , usually if you over shim the 3 needle roller ( NO taper rollers anywhere in a intermediate assembly ) bearings it results in the plastic cages melting and blocking off oil supply and doing alot more damage than that shaft shows . That shaft shows pretty standard case hardening lifting emanatiing rom the lube holes .Wont be swarf , will be bits a metal coming off the needlebearings ,Check eack bearing , you will see the witness marks line up with oil holes .

    There is no easy ,cheap way around it , you need to fix it properly the first time,
    This is one of the rare times the workshop manual , is probably the best thing to follow for the novice .
    There are basically two sets of measurements/clearance you must get right .
    First the bearings , there spacers , and shims total length must be just so.
    The whole intermediate shaft assembly must be just a certain length .
    Those pegged end washers , those Bronze thrust wasjers must be just so,
    Its a case of offering up the assembly ,checking the end thrust and adjusting by changing the endplate or bronze thrust washer thickness ..

    Your old shaft will be great as a Dummy **** to use to set up and measure with !
    The manual clearly shows all the measurements you need to get right

    PS while your there , dont forget to do the Modiication that prevents gearbox oil getting into the transfercase

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPONGAS View Post
    Jeez , I fully overhauled 100 LT95 transfer cases and never seen or heard of a center diff snapping its case bolts . PhillipA , usually if you over shim the 3 needle roller ( NO taper rollers anywhere in a intermediate assembly ) bearings it results in the plastic cages melting and blocking off oil supply and doing alot more damage than that shaft shows . That shaft shows pretty standard case hardening lifting emanatiing rom the lube holes .Wont be swarf , will be bits a metal coming off the needlebearings ,Check eack bearing , you will see the witness marks line up with oil holes .

    There is no easy ,cheap way around it , you need to fix it properly the first time,
    This is one of the rare times the workshop manual , is probably the best thing to follow for the novice .
    There are basically two sets of measurements/clearance you must get right .
    First the bearings , there spacers , and shims total length must be just so.
    The whole intermediate shaft assembly must be just a certain length .
    Those pegged end washers , those Bronze thrust wasjers must be just so,
    Its a case of offering up the assembly ,checking the end thrust and adjusting by changing the endplate or bronze thrust washer thickness ..

    Your old shaft will be great as a Dummy **** to use to set up and measure with !
    The manual clearly shows all the measurements you need to get right

    PS while your there , dont forget to do the Modiication that prevents gearbox oil getting into the transfercase
    Better yet, junk it and fit a tapered roller intermediate gearset

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    PhillipA , usually if you over shim the 3 needle roller ( NO taper rollers anywhere in a intermediate assembly ) bearings it results in the plastic cages melting and blocking off oil supply and doing a lot more damage than that shaft shows
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    I must be getting poor at english but I thought I said exactly what you said.
    I was just warning him that if the gearset is too short the plastic cages etc etc.IE measure the overall length.

    Although I have seen one so blocked with shim swarf that when I blew it out with some air , the material flew across the room. I suspect the transfer involved had had EP90 in it.
    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by 400HPONGAS View Post
    PS while your there , dont forget to do the Modiication that prevents gearbox oil getting into the transfercase
    What is this modification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
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    I must be getting poor at english but I thought I said exactly what you said.
    I was just warning him that if the gearset is too short the plastic cages etc etc.IE measure the overall length.

    Although I have seen one so blocked with shim swarf that when I blew it out with some air , the material flew across the room. I suspect the transfer involved had had EP90 in it.
    Regards Philip A
    whats the story with EP90??

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    Quote Originally Posted by clean32 View Post
    whats the story with EP90??
    EP 90 used to have an ingredient that ate brass / bronze shims in LT 95's. Some EP 90's may still have it. Rick 130 would be the man to explain. PhilipA had sad first hand experience in the past, from memory.

    cheers, DL

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    The use of EP90 , was the reason 75% of the transfercases I overhauled , blew up !!
    Usually the same scenario ,
    Step 1 get it serviced
    Step 2 Nice and cheap at the Local K-mart , ultra-tune etc
    Step 3 Put GEARBOX oil in the Gearbox (as you would !!!)
    Step 4 Exactly 1232K later , bang !!!! The bastard of a thing keeps flipping the Transfer case into neutral
    Step 5 Tie in High range using rope
    Step 6 200 k's down the road BANG again , oops chewed throught the selector arms .
    Step 7 , call for the Tow Truck !!! ($1 per Kilometer )
    Yep , sulphur based extreme prerssure additives absolutely love those Phosphor Bronze Thrusts
    Again , the manual clearly states the use of a ENGINE oil not a gearbox type oil !!!
    Wait till you see what Gearbox oil in the main gearbox can do , very messy !!!!

    AS for the No 2 biggest problem of LT95's , that of transferring oil from the main to the Transfer box , just peg the Output gear spacer to the spline , so as the output gear and its spacer can not rotate at unequal speeds .

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