Thread: Is it ok to snatch from

Originally Posted by CraigE

As said the eyelets are not to be used for recovery. They are not rated and as such if you use them and an accident does occur with someone getting hurt you can and will be held criminally neglient, not to mention any civil liability.
Not what they are designed for.
The rated recovery points are OK as long as they are installed correctlly to the chassis.

Is the one under removable cover in bumper the recommended front recovery point?
Cheers..B

this was from a single google search

Troutbeck Sales & Services Land Rover products

Recovery Points

Tow Hook with Keeper - Bushranger

4WD1.com - 4WD Recovery Gear - Snatch Strap, Shackles, Winch Straps & more.

so there are a few recovery point out there

those eyelets are there to replace the tie down points that get unbolted from the vehicle as part of the barworks installation.

I have a S1 Disco with an ARB airbag compatible bull bar, current shape with winch rollers recessed. ARB advised me that I should not snatch from the eyelets on the front of the bar. They did say i could use it as a winch attachment point and with an added accessory I could use it as a highlift jacking point. (more money) I don't know why they just don't cut a T hole like TJM.

As per previous post the rated points are shown if you follow the links. AMV (in Victoria) also stock them.
LRA have a recovery point which I recently found. follow link which really looks good.
Recovery Gear

Regards
Barjop
98 Discob S1Tdi Auto
2" Ridepro lift
Rear Tru Trac

Originally Posted by black betty

this was from a single google search

Troutbeck Sales & Services Land Rover products

Recovery Points

Tow Hook with Keeper - Bushranger

4WD1.com - 4WD Recovery Gear - Snatch Strap, Shackles, Winch Straps & more.

so there are a few recovery point out there

Yes but none of them say you can Snatch from them.
The tow hook and recovery hook has 3.5 tonne load rating, so it could break before the strap does.
So really it appears no one is standing behind their product and offering a safe Snatch point

Originally Posted by It'sNotWorthComplaining!

Yes but none of them say you can Snatch from them.
The tow hook and recovery hook has 3.5 tonne load rating, so it could break before the strap does.
So really it appears no one is standing behind their product and offering a safe Snatch point

Yes and it's not hard to see why no manufacturer or company would state such a thing. I think the "tow/recovery hook" is rated for 4.5 tonnes, not 3.5 (stamped on a lot of them 10,000 lbs......2.2lbs per kg = 4.54 tonnes)
I don't think any company would actually state suitable for snatching due to the very large amount of variables involved in such an operation.....idiots taking off flat strap, weights of vehicles, type of terrain like mud or sand, types of strap utilised etc etc.
If someone actually stated that it was suitable for snatching and for any reason something went amiss and parts ended up flying through the air and killed/injured someone, then obviously the manufacturer would be liable because it was advertised as suitable for the purpose.
Used in a commonsense manner and with due care it would probably be OK in most situations, but of course there ARE the variables etc that need to be taken into account.
Recovery does not necessarily mean snatch, basic CYA on the manufacturers part.

Cheers
Mick

i have a substantial bar bolted to the chassis in the same position as the recovery points mentioned in BARJOPS thread. it is approx 50mm dia with very solid mounts. I dont know if it was fitted (maybe previous owner) in conjunction with ARB bar, but it looks the goods. do any other Disco owners have the same bar.? sorry...no pic hope description tells the story it is same width as chassis rails and is bolted up with hi tensile bolts in shear. I think you could pull anything from this bar.

My belief is that the eyes on the ARB bar are for a high lift jack adapter.

I have recently done a 4x4 driver training course which included safety with recovery and no way would I use the eye on the bar.

This is what you should have for a recovery point.

Dave.