Tying mono to braid

**stuee** · 11th February 2011, 05:13 PM

For a newbie to fishing what is the advantage of a long leader (10m) over a short leader?

**Chenz** · 11th February 2011, 10:10 PM

That knot is good but IMHO the double uni knot is stronger and very much quicker to tie.

I use it to attach mono or flourocarbon leader to braid and it has never let me down. Even braid to braid when I have been cut off and it runs through with no snags

Try this tutorial on Youtube. the link is [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANupDtPWxtQ]YouTube - Knot Tying: Double Uni knot[/ame]

You can use the single uni to tie hooks and any other terminal tackle as well.

You can use it to tie very light leaders to heavier line with no problems and when you snip off the tag ends close you won't even know when it is going through the runners.

For spooky fish I use a long leader and find the uni knot can run right up through and onto the reel both egg-beaters and overheads even those with level winds.

Give it a go. Once you learn it you can even tie it in the dark

**Bundalene** · 11th February 2011, 10:23 PM

Hi Andy,

I use the improved albright knot a lot. You get quick at tying this knot after a while.

Erich

**roverrescue** · 11th February 2011, 10:50 PM

Ive stayed out of this for a little while but it seems the red has got the better and its time to wade on in

Firstup a double uni is never gonna have a break point (static or dynamic) that is higher than a friction knot.

Second - when it all boils down to it unless you are either (a) testing your knots to destruction or (b) not ever needing them to be tested whilst fishing its kinda irrelevant what knot you use to catch the majority of fish that swim. Most knots (even a double uni) will be stronger than the actual pressure you actually ever apply with rod and reel.

So - just for a laugh, rig up your heaviest rod and reel you use, grab a mate, a set of scales and a couple of beers. Tie the main line to the scales and send them and your mate with a bevvie down the garden. Now lay into it and put as much pressure as you would ever feel comfortable fighting a fish with. At this point get your mate to holler back the reading on the scales.

Once you have that figure - then you have your static real world necessary knot strength. I can pretty much guarantee that it will be a whole lot less than the vast majority of gear that you end up fishing with.

So - what do I fish with. (excuse the stupid terminology lb and kg)

barra gear - 20lb braid improved albright to a metre of 50lb mono - 3kg drag
tuna gear - 50lb braid improved albright to 50lb mono - 6kg drag
GT popping - 110lb braid bimini to 200lb twisted leader - 12kg drag
bottom bashing - 130lb braid improved albright to 140lb mono - 15kg drag

In all cases you will see a huge difference between the pressure applied and stated break strength. That is because of two things - knot strength and abrasion.

If I needed long leaders AND castability I would consider using friction knots but I like twisties for poppering and the rest of my work I keep the leader mostly out of the guides.

Finally I would argue that a 10m leader would greatly reduce the casting distance of surf gear rigged with braid. The majority of casting energy is generated in the first milliseconds of a cast. With such a long leader coming off the reel alot of the energy will be absorbed with line slap and drag. Surf rods are generally long and slow such that the extra elasticity of mono vs braid is negated. Andy what benefit does a 10m leader give over a 1-2m leader? Not that a friction knot would still be beneficial with a 2m leader of course.

Steve

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