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    Quote Originally Posted by sniegy View Post
    It is NOT "An Issue", It is a minor inconvenience.
    All the European manufacturers have the same issue (BMW, Porsch'e, Mercedes Benz, Audi, VW, Ford) Its all to do with vehicle checks & monitoring of the electrical system. The only downside is if you tow a Van with LED's.
    Simple fix, fit a resistive load or buy a ready made unit from many of the people before mentioned in other posts.

    It is also a good idea to fit either as the vehicle will have all its electronic trickery working correctly,
    Yes you can ignore the reverse sensors, ignore the Tell Tale when using the indicators, But would definitely want it working correctly for the Trailer Assist program.

    Cheers
    If all the manufacturers know about it, and we are spending at least $80k on a new car, why can't Land Rover address the 'minor inconvenience' then?

    It would be interesting to see the percentage of trailers that are now LED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniegy View Post
    It is NOT "An Issue", It is a minor inconvenience.
    All the European manufacturers have the same issue (BMW, Porsch'e, Mercedes Benz, Audi, VW, Ford) Its all to do with vehicle checks & monitoring of the electrical system. The only downside is if you tow a Van with LED's.
    Simple fix, fit a resistive load or buy a ready made unit from many of the people before mentioned in other posts.

    It is also a good idea to fit either as the vehicle will have all its electronic trickery working correctly,
    Yes you can ignore the reverse sensors, ignore the Tell Tale when using the indicators, But would definitely want it working correctly for the Trailer Assist program.
    Cheers

    Not having stability control working a "minor inconvenience", I wonder what a coroner would think?
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    The vehicles haven't changed, the trailer lights have. Isn't it the manufacturers of the trailer lights that need to maintain compatibility with there previous product, the filament globe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggs View Post
    I suppose the only thing that stands out in this whole debate is: "If Land Rover are so cutting edge.. why is this an issue.. LEDs are pretty much the standard for trailers, vans etc. and have been for a few years." I'd probably rate this on a par with their crap navigation system.
    Without taking this thread too far off track, I have never understood what peoples issues are with the navigation system.

    Mine has never failed, and has always gotten me to where I wanted to go.

    Just for fun, I have even entered a Lat / Long into the system, to see what would happen, rather than a street address. Works perfectly.



    As for the trailer lights, I built a box to fit between the trailer plug & car, containing the resistors. Would have taken a whole hour or so, and that is with the pup helping like he does. He likes to relocate the tool that I am about to use.

    People are calling it an "issue" and other words, but as far as I am concerned, it isn't even an inconvinience. I still have to connect the trailer & plug it in. I still check the brake lights etc, so what is the problem?

    I currently have 3 trailers & only 1 box. One day I will get around to making a couple more, but until then, I just move it to the trailer that I am using at the time. No more work than actually hooking up the trailer.

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    Basil, my problem with the navigation system is the quality/cost of the maps.. as I have previously stated on another string..
    $300 for an update is outrageous when you can buy a Garmin with free lifetime updates for less than $200. And its more accurate.
    My street is not on the latest update even though it is a bitumen, gazetted road that has been so for at least 10 years. Likewise many other similar roads. If other GPS companies can get it right why can't the suppliers of maps to Land Rover?
    As I have the HSE with the "off-road mapping" one would also expect a reasonable standard of detail for bush roads, at least the more significant ones that are on tourist maps.. no.. so often the Land Rover screen shows me driving through white void, while my $200 Garmin with street maps shows them .. even most major forestry tracks.
    The D4 is a brilliant vehicle but this sort of rubbish just encourages its critics to look on them as a Toorak Tractor or Wilmslow Panzer as the poms would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boggs View Post
    Not having stability control working a "minor inconvenience", I wonder what a coroner would think?

    Stability control still functions - trailer assist is a different set of capabilities- the trailer does not need to be plugged in for stability control to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil135 View Post
    Without taking this thread too far off track, I have never understood what peoples issues are with the navigation system.

    Mine has never failed, and has always gotten me to where I wanted to go.

    Just for fun, I have even entered a Lat / Long into the system, to see what would happen, rather than a street address. Works perfectly.



    As for the trailer lights, I built a box to fit between the trailer plug & car, containing the resistors. Would have taken a whole hour or so, and that is with the pup helping like he does. He likes to relocate the tool that I am about to use.

    People are calling it an "issue" and other words, but as far as I am concerned, it isn't even an inconvinience. I still have to connect the trailer & plug it in. I still check the brake lights etc, so what is the problem?

    I currently have 3 trailers & only 1 box. One day I will get around to making a couple more, but until then, I just move it to the trailer that I am using at the time. No more work than actually hooking up the trailer.
    But something that's simple for you (wiring up the box with the resistors in it) is very complex for others. Me included.

    Should I pay the exorbitant prices to buy a module? Perhaps. But as long as sway control works I don't really need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD4 View Post
    But something that's simple for you (wiring up the box with the resistors in it) is very complex for others. Me included.

    Should I pay the exorbitant prices to buy a module? Perhaps. But as long as sway control works I don't really need it.
    Scott.
    I suggest you trick the system with a simple light bulb temp wired into the caravan plug then see the difference towing.I have only been carting 1 tonne loads of firewood,the difference in the gear shifting is VERY noticeable and for the better too.Completely different vehicle to drive,and I would say for the better whilst towing.Worth the experiment then decide how to go about trailer recognition.There are posts on 21W load bars that can be wired into the van wiring.
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    Scott.
    I just re-read you post to Basil,you arent able to mess with electricery,no issue.
    I can tell you 1 21w load bar(resistor) on 1 indicator circuit on the van will activate the system.So its just a matter of visiting the local auto elec and asking for a price to wire one into the van,if you want both indicators to flash on the dash ask for a price to fit one to each indicator circuit.
    How I know this.Our old garden trailer hasnt been used for ages,when I plugged it in only 1 indicator out of all the lights worked.I didnt bother fixing them as I was only traveling back tracks.The reverse beepers were deleted,only got the trailer symbol with the LHS indicator.When selecting rock crawl on the farm where I was getting the firewood the dash said auto height lift disabled because of the trailer,had to manually lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD4 View Post
    But something that's simple for you (wiring up the box with the resistors in it) is very complex for others. Me included.

    Should I pay the exorbitant prices to buy a module? Perhaps. But as long as sway control works I don't really need it.
    You are correct, that you don't "need" it.

    But as Landyandy points out, it does change the shift points of the transmission. Maybe not noticeable doing the tip run in a 6 x 4, but if you start pulling heavy loads, you will appreciate it.

    Maybe I should offer a service to make some for people.... will have a think over Easter.

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