What that means is an air/water exchanger can be more compact. But you still need to shed all that heat to air in the same manner as an air/air intercooler (i.e. radiator in the airflow somewhere).Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
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What that means is an air/water exchanger can be more compact. But you still need to shed all that heat to air in the same manner as an air/air intercooler (i.e. radiator in the airflow somewhere).Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
Yes, but another issue for a 4be, is a stick through the front, rendering damage to the intercooler, in a WTA, the intercooler ceases to operate. No great issue. How would one repair a damaged standard intercooler in the bush, it's now part of the induction system?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Thats a good point Gerry, I haven't holed mine yet but there is some rock damage to the fins etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1103.9TDI
JC
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Originally Posted by 1103.9TDI
While there is potential for anything to happen, who has actually heard of a Tdi or TD5 for that matter being stopped with a holed I/C ?Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
(and little tubes of two pack epoxy should be in everyone's toolbox anyway when venturing away from home)
And what's to stop using a top mount air to air unit ?
Nice short inlet tract for less lag/better response, it'd be equal to a water cooled one in that regard. {edit} and I should've added i hate top mounts, but that's another story...{/edit}
From my backside observations with a TD42T Patrol without an I/C (and remembering the Patrol uses very low boost, only something like 7-9PSI) the response (and power) is great on a cool day, but when the ambient goes past around 32*C, geez you wish you had an I/C hanging off the front somewhere.
It gets to a point where the engine almost stalls going over one little railway bridge here in summer, I have to drop back to first gear, it just dies in the arse, and yet it idles over it with power to spare in the cooler weather in second, the difference is that dramatic.
Just another reason to drive an Isuzu, Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
[/QUOTE](and little tubes of two pack epoxy should be in everyone's toolbox anyway when venturing away from home)[/QUOTE]
Devil's advocate, but the damage may require a re-route of the induction supply.
[/QUOTE]And what's to stop using a top mount air to air unit ?
Nice short inlet tract for less lag/better response, it'd be equal to a water cooled one in that regard. {edit} and I should've added i hate top mounts, but that's another story...{/edit}[/QUOTE]
Your edits probably say enough about top mounts, but also nowhere near as efficient as either front mount.
The argument about the positioning seems almost totally irrelevant really... Pretty sure there is a radiator at the front and that is equally likely to suffer damage, and would be even more likely to stop you.
I know, I know.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 1103.9TDI
Done a few radiator fixes out bush, blocking tubes, tea leaves, eggs, pepper, aft-market stuff, it all works. Not to sure about an intercooler though, did you see the question?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psimpson7
'How would one repair a damaged standard intercooler in the bush, it's now part of the induction system?.'
Chewing gum might work:D.
I would rather fix a smased intercooler than a smashed radiator!
I've previously smashed a rad too and just packed it with Silicone to get home, which it did.
With an intercooler, it would be about 20x easier I reckon! Silicone would work no worries
You are making an issue out of nothing!!:)
Obviously you speak from experience, tell us about it.