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    having fitted dozens of these-the spacer should be the same width as you are moving it out parralel.

    when i asked why not throw these housings and retrofit a better type I was told it was due to isuzu suppliers waranty.I was told.we through away hundreds of power steering pumps.

    the first 6X6 was fitted with these when the red wynns safari development vehicle destroyed an engine having the filter being hit by the drive shaft on a hard bump.might not be true but I was told.

    the 12 6x6 I built had a 50mm spacer and the first wide cabs had an extra 10-20mm bit added from the original spacer being cut down.often these had to be filed to get a flat surface as they had been milled with a small cutter..the front the diff being 200mm wider the shaft had a wider angle.

    I had thought the second filter was a bypass type with unwanted oil returned to the sump through the large square hole.

    the spin on filter was an improvement on the old cartridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by rijidij View Post
    Yeah, drilling it was the easiest way for me to do it at the time, and it is a heavy chunk of steel. As you can see from the pic of the block below, you don't need a huge cavity for the oil flow.
    As I regularly use a laser cutter now, I would probably go the 'sandwich' method next time, but I'll still keep an eye out for some aluminium billet.

    Cheers, Murray

    If your block is like that pictured, it is a waste to fit the dual filter setup - the bypass filter can't work when there is no hole to allow the oil to return to the sump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotWired View Post
    Thought I would just ask this in here then start a new thread.

    I was wondering what this hole (circled red, bit hard to see) on the twin filter setup was used for. I ask, because the pipe I got sent to me from the wreckers that goes from the oil cooler to filter housing doesnt have any where to put turbo feed line. If the hole (circled) isnt used for anything, can I use it?



    If not, ill have a spacer made up for the top and drill and tap that instead of just extending the pipe.
    It is for the line that provides lube oil to the injection pump.

    With the 4BD1T the lube line is extended from the injection pump banjo fitting to the front of the timing cover so that it lubes the automatic timing advance device in the timing gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
    If your block is like that pictured, it is a waste to fit the dual filter setup - the bypass filter can't work when there is no hole to allow the oil to return to the sump.
    Geez - that's got me thinking...
    Anyone know if a Landrover 4bd1 block usually has both holes?

    Steve

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    The engine l got had been in a Rangie and had a 3 inch spacer and an extended oil pipe, would'nt work in a 130. l shorten the pipe, did'nt use a spacer and fitted a remote f/f filter.
    Cheers

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    Trying to attach piccy, wish l was bright!
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    Functionally, what is the difference between running the dual filter housing and running the existing single while plumbing in a completely seperate bypass between the same supply and drain into the block?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Functionally, what is the difference between running the dual filter housing and running the existing single while plumbing in a completely seperate bypass between the same supply and drain into the block?
    There is no difference. (Assuming you were running identical bypass filters in both cases). That also assumes that you have a flow restrictor for the bypass element like the ISUZU OEM has.

    I need to pull my filters off now and check that the hole in the block is there

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    There is no difference. (Assuming you were running identical bypass filters in both cases). That also assumes that you have a flow restrictor for the bypass element like the ISUZU OEM has.
    That's what I figured. Since the singles appear easier to clear the front prop-shaft, surely an external bypass would be easier.

    Mine has the factory dual system on hoses remotely above the PS box. The problem is oil changes could not be messier. The angled filters **** oil everywhere and my PS box is there to divert the flow into impossible to clean nooks.
    The best I can do is a cardboard chute to collect as much as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    I need to pull my filters off now and check that the hole in the block is there
    Do tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    There is no difference. (Assuming you were running identical bypass filters in both cases). That also assumes that you have a flow restrictor for the bypass element like the ISUZU OEM has.

    I need to pull my filters off now and check that the hole in the block is there
    Hate to be the bearer of bad news Ben...

    ...but I'm pretty sure neither our engine blocks had the 2nd hole.

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