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    Turboed Isuzu Reliability

    Ok so this topic has been covered extensively but as I'm continually getting conflicting messages I thought its deserved of another mention.

    Basically, whenever I mention to local diesel mechanics (and the like) that I'm turbo charging my Isuzu engine which has 400K+ kms on the clock they get worried, saying the engine is too old, will probably resort in profuse oil consumption and is generally very risky. As you can imagine this leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

    Needless to say, I'm committed to the fitment and have already commenced as your probably.

    Intuition tells me that turbo charging any oldish motor is risky business however, is this a case of lack of knowledge w.r.t the 4BD1? I acknowledge that these engines are well over engineered and have a relatively 'easy' life powering a 2tn vehicle.

    Please enlightening me.

    Cheers Joe

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    From Turbo Glides web site........

    We regularly turbo charge diesel engines with an odometer reading in excess of 250,000k without any deterioration in reliability or longevity.
    ..........and that's not specifically referring to Isuzu's.

    It's understandable that some mechanics would be hesitant to fit a turbo to what they consider a high km engine, but the 4BD1 engine, if serviced properly, is capable of many hundreds of thousand Kms, so I would say, if your engine is generally in good condition, then go for it.

    From their FAQ's...............

    Q. How much boost and power do you set up for along with Max EGT?

    A. We use 9lb and a torque gain of no more than 30% and an EGT of no more than 500°Celcius under prolonged full throttle usage. My staff and I have seen many turbo kits installed exceeding these parameters resulting in severe engine damage. Use of chassis dyno is mandatory before and after fitment of turbo.
    Again, this is a general comment, not specifically referring to Isuzu's.

    As an indication of just how well built the Isuzu engine is built, standard boost on a factory 4BD1T is 13.8psi and max EGT is 750*c.
    Personally, I'm running 15psi and ~660*c max EGT, but mine is intercooled.

    Cheers, Murray
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    Quote Originally Posted by rijidij View Post

    As an indication of just how well built the Isuzu engine is built, standard boost on a factory 4BD1T is 13.8psi and max EGT is 750*c.
    Personally, I'm running 15psi and ~660*c max EGT, but mine is intercooled.

    Cheers, Murray
    Rovercares is hitting 30pd boost, that motor is i think around the 300k km mark.

    As stated they are an over engineered engine, not some old 2.4 hilux motor

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    Quote Originally Posted by 110Landy86 View Post
    My Isuzu engine which has 400K+ kms on the clock
    has just been run in and is ready to be driven hard.
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    Thanks Guys, I'm grinning already

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    Thanks for the post Joe

    I am going through the same issue.

    I have a 4bd1 that has had a rebuild done recently and before that had 220k miles on it.

    It has d gas and blows almost no smoke and goes pretty well as is although it does lose a little of it's edge on a long steep hill and I would love to fit a turbo
    to assist with that. I have GT 28 turbo on the shelf ready to fit.

    Rijidij's is a factory turbo though.

    I know the guys on here who have retrofitted turbos to their 4bd1's are more than happy but my concern is that the factory turbo has oil squirters under the pistons to assist with cooling and the NA does not.

    As I intend to use mine outback and towing I don 't want an overheating issue.

    I suppose minimising boost to less than 10 psi and intercooling may help.

    I wonder if a remote oil cooler would also help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by land864 View Post
    Thanks for the post Joe

    I am going through the same issue.

    I have a 4bd1 that has had a rebuild done recently and before that had 220k miles on it.

    It has d gas and blows almost no smoke and goes pretty well as is although it does lose a little of it's edge on a long steep hill and I would love to fit a turbo
    to assist with that. I have GT 28 turbo on the shelf ready to fit.

    Rijidij's is a factory turbo though.

    I know the guys on here who have retrofitted turbos to their 4bd1's are more than happy but my concern is that the factory turbo has oil squirters under the pistons to assist with cooling and the NA does not.

    As I intend to use mine outback and towing I don 't want an overheating issue.

    I suppose minimising boost to less than 10 psi and intercooling may help.

    I wonder if a remote oil cooler would also help?
    Don't think anyone on here has melted the top out of a NA piston after its been turbo'd.
    I'm assuming you already have an EGT guage with the D/Gas, so fit the turbo, turn up the fuel a bit and back off the loud pedal if the EGT gets to a level you are uncomfortable with.

    4BD1 already has a good oil cooler built into the engine - probably another reason why they don't give problems when turbo'd.

    Steve

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    Hi steve

    Nope no EGT gauge , just and the old fashioned standard temp gauge

    Travelled up to Strathbogies on the weekend and managed to maintain 75kmh up Kinglake Hill

    As the fuel pump has been rebuilt also . I feel the fuel screw may have had a bit of adjusting.

    Also did economy check today and managed around 9 l/100km

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    So with the D/Gas and a pump tweak its possible that you are running high EGT's anyway?
    So that brings another option. Fit the turbo without an EGT gauge and just drive it. No temperature issue

    Steve.

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    So many variables here, I mean, who knows , your engine might go tits up almost immediately after fitting the turbo, but to my mind, whataway to go!!, with an Isuzu, you don't need as much good luck as you might do with the rest.

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