It's official isuzu is the best

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Originally Posted by big guy

At the end of the day, there is NO way I would ever consider a truck motor in a non commercial car. They are just too noisy and agricultural.
The 300 tdi is my limit and was great and will keep going for another 10 years no doubt but in terms of comfort, its way behind modern cars.

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Maybe if you did you'd keep a car for a longer period of time than you do now;)

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Originally Posted by big guy

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At the end of the day, there is NO way I would ever consider a truck motor in a non commercial car. They are just too noisy and agricultural.
The 300 tdi is my limit and was great and will keep going for another 10 years no doubt but in terms of comfort, its way behind modern cars.

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From the sound tests I did, there isn't much difference in noise between a 300tdi and a 4BD1.

And once you get up to highway speed, it's the tyres that drown out both.

That woful truck engine would actually pull the top of a rice custard unlike most other diesels :D a 4bd1t is not that noisy especially with a little bit of sound deadener it is quieter than a 300tdi

Isuzu Does not accelerate as hard as a navara or v8 cruiser etc etc but any of us with an isuzu put it against any other LR motor or nissan diesel and throw a hill at it and I recon the isuzu will be waiting at the top and just to make it fair the isuzu could have well over 300k on the clock and be over 20 years old :p I drive a d22 a fair bit and my isuzu monsters it in every way known to man :D

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Originally Posted by rovercare

Maybe if you did you'd keep a car for a longer period of time than you do now;)

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Maybe, I drive my mates RRC with a 4be1 and no thanks but I actually get bored too easily.
Get a car, get it right and than loose interest.

I wish I could agree with you on the Isuzu I just can not bring myself to do it.
I tried, even had one sitting in my shed for ages ready for a conversion but everytime i ride with one fitted i cringe.

Anyhow, all the best to those who have them.

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Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

That woful truck engine would actually pull the top of a rice custard unlike most other diesels :D a 4bd1t is not that noisy especially with a little bit of sound deadener it is quieter than a 300tdi

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Put most 4litre(ish) truck motors in a car and you will get that I would have thought. :o

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Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

Isuzu Does not accelerate as hard as a navara or v8 cruiser etc etc but any of us with an isuzu put it against any other LR motor or nissan diesel and throw a hill at it and I recon the isuzu will be waiting at the top and just to make it fair the isuzu could have well over 300k on the clock and be over 20 years old :p I drive a d22 a fair bit and my isuzu monsters it in every way known to man :D

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Big call there. The numbers do not really stack up in your favour.

Although I have a D40 now, I am not a Nissan man. Its a work car and the numbers stacked up for me to get it.

With 450NM and six speed box, I have already towed a tandem fully loaded at roughly 2700kg up some window roads in adelaide hills. No problem at all really.

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Originally Posted by big guy

Big call there. The numbers do not really stack up in your favour.

Although I have a D40 now, I am not a Nissan man. Its a work car and the numbers stacked up for me to get it.

With 450NM and six speed box, I have already towed a tandem fully loaded at roughly 2700kg up some window roads in adelaide hills. No problem at all really.

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Well good luck to you mate! Like I said, the isuzu rover is not about speed huge torque and comfort. Horses for courses perhaps? Maybe a Navara or other contraption is your cup of tea. Others here feel differently so fair enough. At the end of the day, the Navara's et al will have been long gone and two or more newer models of you beaut go fast contraptions will have replaced it while the 110 Isuzu will still be plotting along sans numerous head and injection pump rebuilds. It's not a numbers game for torque and power, it's a numbers game for reliable service measured over years and many hundred of thousands of km without worry. It's that simple. If pollen filtered cabins and complex electronic management systems that dull the inevitable diesel vibration and noise are your thing then that's your decision. Proceed to Compare when the competitors have matched the endurance + service schedules that the faithful old 4b1 & 4bt1-T are capable of returning. Otherwise its apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by Svengali0

Well good luck to you mate! Like I said, the isuzu rover is not about speed huge torque and comfort. Horses for courses perhaps? Maybe a Navara or other contraption is your cup of tea. Others here feel differently so fair enough. At the end of the day, the Navara's et al will have been long gone and two or more newer models of you beaut go fast contraptions will have replaced it while the 110 Isuzu will still be plotting along sans numerous head and injection pump rebuilds. It's not a numbers game for torque and power, it's a numbers game for reliable service measured over years and many hundred of thousands of km without worry. It's that simple. If pollen filtered cabins and complex electronic management systems that dull the inevitable diesel vibration and noise are your thing then that's your decision. Proceed to Compare when the competitors have matched the endurance + service schedules that the faithful old 4b1 & 4bt1-T are capable of returning. Otherwise its apples and oranges.

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At least you are still comparing fruits rather than fruit and vegetables.:p

You are right, the Navara is electric gimitry as well as every more recent car sold.
My Golf tdi goes even harder.

I guess the totally one eyed bearded Isuzu brigade will always be exactly that.

Catch you later, I be sure to hear you coming from 5 miles away.

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Originally Posted by big guy

At least you are still comparing fruits rather than fruit and vegetables.:p

You are right, the Navara is electric gimitry as well as every more recent car sold.
My Golf tdi goes even harder.

I guess the totally one eyed bearded Isuzu brigade will always be exactly that.

Catch you later, I be sure to hear you coming from 5 miles away.

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:D Oi! I resemble that remark!!:D

JC