Reply With QuotePaying someone will result in very empty pockets I would assume ! Who owns that one in the pics? May I ask where you got the long block from ?
ChatterBox
So I’ve been accumulating upgrade parts for my 120 over the last few years. I’m at a point where I can start putting everything together but lack of time, garage space and mechanical prowess are intervening in my ultimate build.
Faced with the reality of having to move from my humble abode into the CBD for a couple of years, finding storage space for all my “spare parts” terrifies the **** out of me. (I also have a toy 90 with a few “upgrade parts” which are also waiting to be fitted – but that’s another story). Which brings me to my dilemma.
While I really want the experience of pulling everything apart and putting it back together myself, however the lack of time and storage space make this improbable in the near future.
Do I pay someone to do it, store it for a couple of years, and do myself when I have more time and space, or a combination of the two? I have a bunch of parts (at various states of readiness) to be fitted to the truck:
- a rebuilt 4BD1-T long block
- a “remanufactured” Bosch Type A injection pump (RBD governor) – currently tuned for a 4BD2TC (I suspect the “remanufactured” means steam cleaned on the outside – is there any way to tell?)
- a Perentie LT95A with an underdrive PTO winch drive sprocket fitted
- a rebuilt Perentie underdrive PTO assembly complete with driveshafts and a Perentie Thomas winch (grooved drum + extended oil reservoir)
- a new genuine 4BD1T clutch assembly (clutch, 4BD1T pressure plate and throwout bearing)
- a 75l aux fuel tank fitting on the driver’s side underbody
- a complete spare 110 wagon body aft of the firewall
- rear seating and most of the 110 interior trim
My ultimate tourer would be a 120” chassis based dual cab conversion with a custom tray at the back. Seating for 4 with 2 cubby boxes (front and rear), or perhaps a cubby box (front) and a fridge (rear). The tray needs to be 1.8m long (to fit the Trayon), and tray floor elevated (for Trayon overhang to clear the roofline) so I’m looking to incorporate undertray storage (slideout draws both sides + perhaps a spare wheel). I want to minimise overhang on the tray as much as possible, so will need to compromise between rear seat legroom and tray overhang. A 130 chassis would be ideal in some regards but is too much work, considering I already have an excellent 120 chassis which I have modified to fit a Perentie bullbar.
Customary pics below:
So the question is, what would you do?
1.) Pay someone to put everything together
2.) Pay someone to do the bodywork and do everything mechanical yourself
3.) Pay someone to do the mechanical work now, and change the body configuration + repairs when you have more time
4.) Find a place to store it and do it all myself slowly as / when you have more time / room
I'm leaning towards option 4 for many reasons, but wanted to get opinions on what others would do?
Wizard
Paying someone will result in very empty pockets I would assume ! Who owns that one in the pics? May I ask where you got the long block from ?
Master
I think it's important to keep the vehicle driveable if at all possible. It's a lot less demotivating when you know you have something that runs. But it's also important to make some progress. For that reason I'd probably pull the engine and take it along with the new bits to a diesel engine shop with a good reputation. Get them to put the engine together and sort out the pump.
When it comes back, you could spend a weekend putting it in the car with the new box and clutch (assuming you can find a place to do this in the short term). Once it's running, you can do the rest at your leisure.
Swaggie
Easy, sell the T motor and ancillaries to me cheap
Seriously though:
+Your existing motor and IP are healthy, and will likely last another 400000 km plus???
+The 120 is basically mechanically OK at present? And with the trayon on the back will do everything you want atm - albeit with less comfort than when the vehicle is finished...
What are the rates for storage ouside ADL?
Although I don't have the same space dilemmas as you, I have started rationalising my projects and even selling off some bits I have acquired. just keeping the current fleet (3 landies and a boat) serviced and running is proving more than enough work me at present - even with the space and tools. Things may change if the house rennovations are ever finished...
Though if you are set on the T motor, paying someone to fit it would not be too $$$, then you can sell off your na engine. A lot of the other bits like turbo and IP are small and so can be done later... The county body takes up a lot of space and would be cheap to buy another later...
Another option may be to find a landie-friendly mechanic out in the sticks who has (a) a lot of storage space, (b) is happy to do work between jobs for lower rates and (c) is happy for you to do some of the work yourself when you have time. Such a person may be hard to find though...
ChatterBox
You make very good, practical points Ben. I don't actually need to do anything to the truck, it could serve me as is for a long time to come. The main motivators to do the lot now are:
1.) The clutch is starting to slip with the fuel screw wound out, so a new clutch install is on the cards. While I'm changing the clutch, I either have to pull the gearbox or engine out, so I may as well upgrade it at the same time. While I'm upgrading something, I may as well go the whole lot and be done with it.
2.) Another interstate move may be on the cards in 2 to 3 years time, so I would prefer to just move the car, rather than a car and a container of parts.
WRT lack of storage, I should have been more specific - I will lack on-site storage. I have almost two double garages to store tools, spare parts, 3 cars, a trailer and a trayon within the metropolitan area. A friend has kindly offered to help out with additional storage, should it be required. I would prefer to do it myself for the experience, and knowing it's been done right... unless someone can recommend a good Landy mechanic (or diesel mechanic with reasonable rates) in Adelaide who is familiar with 4BD1s.
Dave, I can relate to the importance of having a running landy for motivation. Had the 120 off the road for ~2 years. The Canning trip (which I didn't make in the end) was a great motivator to get it finished, registered and on the road again.
Chief, I got it off a guy on the Sunshine Coast who had it sitting in the shed for ~10 years (another reason to upgrade my N/A block now!).
Swaggie
In that case, unless the engine was sealed up/preserved properly, it may be worth pulling the head for a check.Originally Posted by Offender90
The reco'd long 2.25D I put into the IIA had been sitting for a similar period. A friend suggested I pull the head for a look. I was glad I did - some of the water galleries were clogged with rust flakes. No big deal, but much easier to clean properly with the head off.
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