first off see if the lever actually moves towards the stops.
Hi all,
When I installed the turbo I kept things very conservative re boost and EGT. With 14-16psi max and 400DegC Max EGT performance has been good... but..
So I decided to turn it all up and see what happened... and... well.. nothing happened. There just isn't enough fuel to feed the magic!
With the Accelerator cable at max, I'm not getting much more than standard movement... as per pic below I can do what I like to that fuel screw because the accelerator isn't moving the cable enough to touch it:
So I have ordered a new cable. But Then I noticed the pop rivets in the bracket.. and the bracket moves around and has a distinctly DIY feel about it.
Is this the same as others?
Also, looking at the lever on the IP.. If I drill an other hole closer in on the lever to get more lever movement with less cable movement will this cause any problems?
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
first off see if the lever actually moves towards the stops.
Dave
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Yep, when moved manually the lever will touch the fuel screw, and do so with the fuel screw wound out another 3 full turns. (but i've since wound it back).
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
Those 2 screws in your pics are the idle speed and maximum speed adjustments.
The full load fuel adjustment screw is on the side of the governor, not the top.
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
Awesome thread. I'll throw you a bone flagg and say that I don't know where the fuel screw is. Initially I was expecting a lock nut and screw facing outwards of the injector pump (which is maybe still true). But when I read this, I thought, "OHHH that IS the fuel screw!". haha Better you starting a thread than me though.
Obviously I'm of no value on that topic, but I can at least provide a photo of my cable mount. No rivets on mine.
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Fuel screw is on side of pump towards the back. It turns into the side of the pump. There's a pic on here somewhere.
Just be careful how much you adjust it. A little does a lot.
This pic shows the full load fuel adjustment screw (bottom centre of pic).
There is a tamper-proof shield over the head of the screw and the locknut.
Be careful removing the shield, someone on another forum was too ham-fisted and broke the housing. From memory, if you spin the shield around, you can find a longitudinal seam, where you can start to pry it apart to reveal the screw.
If yours has a drilled screw and a seal with wire, instead of the shield, that is a sign that the pump has been serviced by a diesel injection shop. That is what your pic of the maximum speed screw looked like (stock that screw has the same shield).
To increase full load fuel rate, back the screw out, so that the lever can travel further before it stops against the screw.
Thanks everyone. In my defence, when reading the injector pump manual the general description diagram only shows the speed screw, and not the governor screw.This was reinforced when I installed the turbo, a twist of the speed screw got me from 6 to 16 psi.
I also misunderstood the speed verses load thing. I've read (or understood) governor adjustment as only having an effect when you give it some boot. For some reason I though that was speed of the engine, not load on the engine. ie, you move the accelerator a little bit, not change. You put your foot to the floor, big change. However I have learned now that the governor has a HUGE effect throughout the whole rev range. It changes the amount of fuel the IP provides when the engine is under any load - small or large. So even a small change in the accelerator gives a much larger squirt of juice to get the engine in balance again.
1.5 turns on the governor gives me 22psi, 525 DegC EGT max and a whole lot of oomph. Huge change also in exhaust note. The 3" mandrel high flow has quite a growl when you give it some boot.
To the original question though - yes my accelerator cable is knackered doesn't have the throw it should. But now it doesn't matter that much.
I hardly knew one end of a spanner from the other when I got this 110.. and it really is a great thing to be learning with![]()
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
You have a problem with the terminology. What you have called governor adjustment, is simply one adjustment of the governor, i.e. the full load adjustment.
Our Bosch RLD governor is a complex unit. IIRC, there are approximately 16 adjustment points in total.
The governor controls the amount of fuel that the IP delivers. The particular governor on our engines is designed for variable load and speed. A 4BD1 for a genset will have a different governor that maintains a constant engine speed, but can have variable load.
When we change the accelerator position with our right foot, we are demanding the governor increase or decrease the engine speed so it responds by adjusting fuel rate via the control rack.
Although it tries, it can't perform miracles, as for example, the limits for min and max speeds, and maximum load are preset adjustments. On a steep decent, it can't reduce fuel below zero to reduce engine speed further.
If the load changes, the governor adjusts the fuel rate to try and maintain the engine speed.
It has several adjustments for idling (accelerator position) over the range of engine speeds (which sounds like a contradiction of idling, but necessary for the governor to be able control the speed when the load changes substantially.
It also has several adjustments for full load over the range of engine speeds. Note full load is not a particular value of load, but the greatest load (think of the torque curve if you like) at every rpm point over the operating range.
Edit: the full load screw, maximum speed screw and the torque cam, together limit the travel of the control rack in the fuel increase direction.
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