My question is, SINCE Grubbs kit for putting the LT 230 onto the MSA gearbox is apparently unavailable, is there any one else anywhere in the world producing a kit to do this conversion. Thanks for replies and discussion so far.
With my ute the person who did the motor install used a range rover power steering pump. Fits under the alternator. Good thing with this is you can use the same plumbing as well. Motor has a double pulley on the water pump. Groove closest to the motor is a B section groove for the twenty four volt alternator and the water pump and the other is a A section for the power steering pump and twelve volt alternator. The twenty four volt starter has a lot more grunt than the twelve volt one. Not habit forming to forget that you are in gear and try and start. The ute has pull stop. But this goes by the year of the chassis.
Cheers Hall
My question is, SINCE Grubbs kit for putting the LT 230 onto the MSA gearbox is apparently unavailable, is there any one else anywhere in the world producing a kit to do this conversion. Thanks for replies and discussion so far.
Hi JohnF,
I mentioned on the 19th in this thread that I had spoken to Sheldon or 'grubb', although I did not elaborate on our conversation. Sheldon said that the MSA/LT230 adaptor and gear change mechanism will be available subject to numbers required and cost. For my project, MSA to LT230, Sheldon's only concern was where the gear stick would sit in relation to the RRC 'hard' dash. If Vern and I have not got our wires crossed then as Vern says 'it should fit like a glove' and I should not be concerned. Shelddon said he will be back on the forums 'soon'![]()
Further, to condition us to the cost of this sort of exercise.
I was beginning to feel time was running out and I would need to develop parts myself. This is my first engine transplant.
I rang one 4x4 conversion kit supplier here in Australia to see if they had anything off the shelf for the MSA, but no. I asked what would a one off adaptor shaft machined from solid cost me as a rough guide (no torque tube, no gear changer if we understood each other correctly). The conversation roughly:
Supplier: when we tell people the cost for a one off they usually feel sick.
Me: Two grand?
Supplier: more...
Me: three!!!
Supplier: more...generally over $4k.
Maybe if I checked out more suppliers I might find better pricing.
I'll leave Sheldon to provide his prices, but by comparison his appears to be good value. I've written to a couple of firms overseas but had no response.
Rakeway in the UK do some components that could mate to the MSA/MXA.
This would require a divorced transfer, but is a good option.
The cable shift is pretty easy to arrange, just grab a cable from a Corolla or similar and nut it out.
Matt
Last edited by mudmouse; 21st February 2014 at 08:47 PM. Reason: .
Thanks mudmouse. From memory Ashcroft recommended Rakeway, and I wrote, but no reply - some say you need to phone them - maybe another day, depending on overall cost and time to production of Sheldon's kit.
Sheldon, we would like the price please. I would welcome you back.
The adaptor shaft that I made cost $200 for the spline to be cut and hardening. The shaft as a blank bit of shaft was under a $100. A few hours turning and drilling. So I could do it for mate rates and still be in front, say $3500Geeze even $800 I would be still well in front.
Cheers Hall
I did suspect some taking of the non-alcoholic yellow amber with those prices.
Hmmm...glad all these competitive quotes are coming out...$800 Oz for Hall's and $800 NZ for Dougal...factor in shipping, probably cheaper to and from NZ than with in Oz...they'll be competing with Oz car part manufacturers with nothing to do...any lower offer than $800?
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