Thread: Found a donor truck

Lt235 ?

LT 230 OK, so I pressed the wrong key sheeze only got one digit wrong, picky picky picky
Cheers Hall

JohnF - getting Isuzu engine and gearbox by all accounts is worth it, so I'll be persisting with my conversion. Don't intend this as a thread hi-jack, hoping my questions might be relevant to your situation.

I've left phone messages, emails etc for Sheldon but no response as yet. I'll rely on the confidence of those who know him that he'll come through.

In the mean time, can anyone tell me the gap I must leave between the MSA5 speed and the LT230 transfer box for Sheldon's adapter? I can then make a temporary frame to join the two components. Ideally I would like to hear from a few who have used Sheldon's adapter for the MSA5/LT230 in case there has been any variance as Sheldon worked toward developing optimum fit - or has there been only one iteration?

Also, as a temporary measure I have purchased an output shaft, long spline, which I intend to mate to a home made flange, to bolt to the existing flange at the rear of the MSA5 box - I assume this is how Sheldon's set up goes together - this contrivance will in theory allow me to align the MSA5 with the LT230, using the temporary frame to hold it all together. Then I should be able to move on to the engine mounts.

Speaking of engine mounts, has anyone actually drawn up some CAD designs for the mounts and any other fabricated items required (thinking of people like Dougal). Note this is my first attempt at an engine transplant so anything to smooth the process would be appreciated. I've got access to an old series frame for stock. I'm going to try and fit the Isuzu set up into a 1982 Range Rover.

Also, can anyone tell me if it is OK to mount the 4bd1 to an engine trolley (cheap 560kg job from Supercheap) via the bell housing, or should it be mounted directly to the block - is the bell housing strong enough? For the moment I just want to move the engine around the shed as space is required, without having to resort to the engine crane all the time.

Cheers.

My engine uses mounts adapted to the v8 chassis mounts. It's not ideal. The angle of the v8 mounts is too steep and gives too much engine vertical motion over bumps. You'll need to fabricate isuzu mounts.

I used 175 mm between tc and gear box to suit Grubs shaft but in the end did my own thing. Found that dimension in one of his posts here I used toyota diesel engine mounts post somewhere on here As for the bell housing I would`nt

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Originally Posted by Hall

LT 230 OK, so I pressed the wrong key sheeze only got one digit wrong, picky picky picky
Cheers Hall

Not being picky thought it might be the code for the new 5 speed TC

Originally Posted by workingonit

JohnF - getting Isuzu engine and gearbox by all accounts is worth it, so I'll be persisting with my conversion. Don't intend this as a thread hi-jack, hoping my questions might be relevant to your situation.

I've left phone messages, emails etc for Sheldon but no response as yet. I'll rely on the confidence of those who know him that he'll come through.

In the mean time, can anyone tell me the gap I must leave between the MSA5 speed and the LT230 transfer box for Sheldon's adapter? I can then make a temporary frame to join the two components. Ideally I would like to hear from a few who have used Sheldon's adapter for the MSA5/LT230 in case there has been any variance as Sheldon worked toward developing optimum fit - or has there been only one iteration?

Also, as a temporary measure I have purchased an output shaft, long spline, which I intend to mate to a home made flange, to bolt to the existing flange at the rear of the MSA5 box - I assume this is how Sheldon's set up goes together - this contrivance will in theory allow me to align the MSA5 with the LT230, using the temporary frame to hold it all together. Then I should be able to move on to the engine mounts.

Speaking of engine mounts, has anyone actually drawn up some CAD designs for the mounts and any other fabricated items required (thinking of people like Dougal). Note this is my first attempt at an engine transplant so anything to smooth the process would be appreciated. I've got access to an old series frame for stock. I'm going to try and fit the Isuzu set up into a 1982 Range Rover.

Also, can anyone tell me if it is OK to mount the 4bd1 to an engine trolley (cheap 560kg job from Supercheap) via the bell housing, or should it be mounted directly to the block - is the bell housing strong enough? For the moment I just want to move the engine around the shed as space is required, without having to resort to the engine crane all the time.

Cheers.

I'm wondering what you need the adapters for?

Your gearbox will bolt to the engine. That's sorted.
Your gear-shift (if MSB ) is completely different to Sheldons kit.
Your output shaft and home-made flange could easily become a real adapter shaft.
All you then need is the fabrication between box and LT230.

If you are worried about the engine stand, then just make a prop for the front of the engine when mounted.

After paying a arm, leg and kidney for the Isuzu engine mounts for a 4bb1 (same for all 4b series motors. ). I found on this site as posted by Ancient Marine that Toyota mounts and more pacific Hilux mounts do the same job and cheaper. You can get the Hilux mounts non genuine were as the Isuzu ones have to be genuine. Do remember though that you have to either open a bolt hole up or drill a new one. Either way not a real issue.
Cheers Hall

Dougal, my apologies, I should have said MSA5 gearbox.