Questions questions questions...

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Originally Posted by Vern

Try and get a later model Turbo jobby, if you can. If you need to compare things feel free to pop in and look at the differences between the v8 and Isuzu in my rangies, won't be around for 5 weeks though.
Try truck wreckers for an engine.

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Not having much luck on this front. Most don't seem to have any and the ones that do want upwards of $4K for something with well over 200KKM on them. Looks like a full rebuild kit is reasonably priced, but this would then top $6K before I even start, which is a bit more than I was expencting,

Am I missing something or would it be easier to get one from a Perentie wreck - I can get a whole vehicle for much less than that...

Any thoughts on what I should be able to pick a reasonable engine up for, or a shagged one for that matter that can be rebuilt?

Am I wrong thinking I should be able to get a good, fairly low KM (around 100 to 150KKM) for around $3.5K and a higher KM example that may need a rebuild kit thrown in it for half that?

Unfortunately these engines reputation precedes them and prices follow. You shouldn't need a rebuild with less than 400k of truck use.

I can bring some 3d edrawings to Melbourne for you of the 4bd1t.

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Originally Posted by bacicat

Not having much luck on this front. Most don't seem to have any and the ones that do want upwards of $4K for something with well over 200KKM on them. Looks like a full rebuild kit is reasonably priced, but this would then top $6K before I even start, which is a bit more than I was expencting,

Am I missing something or would it be easier to get one from a Perentie wreck - I can get a whole vehicle for much less than that...

Any thoughts on what I should be able to pick a reasonable engine up for, or a shagged one for that matter that can be rebuilt?

Am I wrong thinking I should be able to get a good, fairly low KM (around 100 to 150KKM) for around $3.5K and a higher KM example that may need a rebuild kit thrown in it for half that?

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IMO, genuine turbo motor for $4K with 200K on it is probably not a bad price. Unlikely to need a rebuild at those K's unless its been abused.

If you get a Perentie engine, preferably get a post '87 one which should have the Alfin pistons, and a blanked off turbo drain hole in the block which makes things easier to add a turbo.

I reckon either engine will be more than capable of lugging you around for many years without major work - even well turbo'd up in the case of the Perentie one.

Probably a bigger consideration is the stuff around factor in all of it, and how to make the conversion go as easily as possible.

If you definitely need the truck engine flywheel adapter, then might be better to source the truck engine. Watch out for the different size flywheels (larger) on the later ones or you could end up messing around with custom clutch plates. Don't forget you're probably going to have to chase 12v starter and alternator unless you decide to go for some 24V electrics on board. Truck turbo motor will likely come with the angled manifold - which is great if you want that style, but no advantage if you don't.
On the other hand, if the landrover flywheel adapter suits you better (or you are going to have to make some sort of adapter anyway) then maybe steer towards a Perentie engine as they plentiful at present. If you can get one complete with starter/alternator then even better as that sorts your 12v gear out.

I think it would be fair to say that of the small number of 4bd1 rebuilds that members on here have done, a large proportion probably weren't actually required and were done as a "while I'm at it I might as well rebuild it" sort of thing. Basically, no-one is killing them, very few are rebuilding them, and even fewer actually needed it so don't be concerned about having to rebuild one before fitting unless you know its rooted.

Steve

Fair enough then with the prices, but I have seen non turboed version from a Perentie go for just over $2K and I have just found another with a starting price of $1,800

I'll be using the LT95 gearbox, so the Landie flywheel housing should be the go, albeit with an adaptor plate I believe.

Maybe I'll just bid on a wreck at the next auctions and see what I end up with...:D

I bought a whole stage 1 for $1800, motor had 220,000k on it, then I bought another engine for $1500 that had a genuine 93,000miles on it. They are out there, but I'd look for the 4bd1T if I could