Who is getting confused by all the MSA/LT230 conversion threads?

[workingonit]

Agree, the casing is the other big problem. But as I've indicated, the Outcast bird I think has flown on that one. Unless they're inundated with genuine requests for a case, and it costs, they're unlikely to make any more.

I really think, unless you can work metal, you'll be off to an engineering shop for a prototype $$$$. Anyone want to draw up detailed plans? Will a forum member make them and go through the issues Sheldon went through (his own fault or not)?

[Vern]

Agree, the casing is the other big problem. But as I've indicated, the Outcast bird I think has flown on that one. Unless they're inundated with genuine requests for a case, and it costs, they're unlikely to make any more.

I really think, unless you can work metal, you'll be off to an engineering shop for a prototype $$$$. Anyone want to draw up detailed plans? Will a forum member make them and go through the issues Sheldon went through (his own fault or not)?

If someone wants to measure mine up then that's fine, but as I said, I'm not pulling it out just yet

[Lotz-A-Landies]

IMHO, what we first need to know is what is the spacing between the MSA/MXA and the LT230 that will use the original prop shaft lengths and can we/someone make a reliable shaft in that length.

After that it is only design work, the decision to use aluminium or steel.

I personally know a retired steel fabrication welder/engineer and Land Rover enthusiast who I'm sure I could convince to make up a jig and do small runs. He prefers to work in steel.

Going on the batches of capstan winch brackets and S1 bumpers he made for me, he would probably also make changes in the design to reduce stress points and make the adapter more reliable. Probably all he'd ask for is for someone to do the drawings in CAD so he could have the end plates lasercut instead of having to plasma cut them.

(Although I don't know if we can trust a Defender TD5 owner? )

[workingonit]

Vern is trying to say 45 pounds sterling (say $100) plus postage which is a good price when not buying locally.

Ashcroft Transmissions

[Vern]

Bingo
Now if ashcrofts can make the zf shaft out of unbreakableariam then that would be awesome

[350RRC]

I've been watching all the relevant threads with interest for a long time.

For me an ultimate touring LR is something like Vern's RRC with a 4BIT and an Isuzu box mated to a reliable LR TC. An automatic could be even better!

I admire what Sheldon did in good faith, especially the gear linkage. There are enough people on here with knowledge and intent to really sort this out in a simple affordable way.

This is really about people building their dream vehicles that LR couldn't get quite right in the first place.

cheers, DL

[workingonit]

I agree with 350rrc sentiments, however...

unless there is common agreement as to what is required then there's not going to be any bulk purchase advantage - and there may little advantage anyway given the few that are interested. Some want to scrounge and adapt, some want bullet proof large diameters, some want to use off the shelf LRover as much as possible, some want field fixable, some don't care about that if it is bullet proof, some are wanting to go dry adaptor case others wet.

Its good to see pictures that people put up of various possible shaft options - but without serious measurements it pretty much becomes like beard stroking looking at family snaps 'oh, that's nice'.

[Homestar]

I've read most of the posts about this, and as someone who will eventually get around to converting the 101 to a 4BD1T, am interested in running the MSA box, but yes, everything is way too confusing. I'm in the 'I want something bulletproof and would be happy to pay for it' camp, but I'm realistically a couple of years from needing to buy one. I'll sit back and wait for a while.

The other option is to keep the LT95 which would be far simpler, but that would be no fun...

[Judo]

lol. Great poll.

I've been reading it but I really don't understand it. I just can't stop reading tho. It's like a crappy thriller movie. I don't really care to keep watching but I want to know how it ends!!!!

[Vern]

I've been watching all the relevant threads with interest for a long time.

For me an ultimate touring LR is something like Vern's RRC with a 4BIT and an Isuzu box mated to a reliable LR TC. An automatic could be even better!

I admire what Sheldon did in good faith, especially the gear linkage. There are enough people on here with knowledge and intent to really sort this out in a simple affordable way.

This is really about people building their dream vehicles that LR couldn't get quite right in the first place.

cheers, DL

Agree 100%. Now if only I could get hold off Sheldon, am sure he will turn up, more than likely overseas with work. Its all starting to get out of control though. I \think he did a great job, yes some had issues, and he is hard to get onto, but when he is around he seems to help out. No one was doing what he did, another company copied it, even they stopped doing it. Still very happy with what I have, issues and all.