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    Command AP60B Cruise Control fitment

    I know its against the whole agricultural ethos of Isuzu ownership, but I've just finished installing a Command AP60B model vacuum actuator cruise control system to the County.
    I was finding on longer transit trips that I was having issues with right foot/calf numbness from being in the one position, and there's not enough room in the footwell to safely do a bit of a foot-swapping to give it a break. I take regular breaks, but found after a couple of days that the numbness was back pretty quickly after getting back in the vehicle.
    Hopefully the CC will let me vary my leg position and make things a bit more pleasant.

    Installation is pretty straightforward, just a bit fiddly working out where to mount things and routing for the wires.
    System consists of a command module with the input switches, control module (the brain), a vacuum actuator that gets connected to the throttle cable, and magnets/sensor that sense propshaft rotation speed.
    System simply tries to vary throttle to maintain the propshaft speed as it was when you hit the "set" button and has no idea of actual road speed. It also has the usual up/down/reset functions.

    Had a few issues getting the speed sensor side of things configured set up and exchanged a couple of emails with their tech support (who were very prompt to reply).
    The installation manual tells you to install one magnet on the propshaft, but in my case this resulted in not being able to engage cruise above 75kmh.
    Final speed sensor config is 2 magnets on the rear propshaft, and the divider wire cut on the control module
    That's with the .996 ratio LT95, standard diffs and 33's (255/85-16) tyres. Also standard diameter 110 rear propshaft (not that it affects RPM if you have a different diameter eg 130 shaft, but it might affect the signal strength due to speed past the sensor...just saying...).

    The other thing that stretched my brain a bit was the wiring for the brake pedal and clutch switch as there are a couple of options for how to do it.
    The kit came with a momentary-on switch for the clutch that is ON when the pedal is released (so open circuit when the pedal is pressed).
    One brown wire from command module goes to the 12v input side of the brake light switch (at the back of the pedal box in the engine bay).
    The other brown wire goes to one side of the clutch switch. Other side of the clutch switch is connected to the "output" side of the brake light switch.

    I don't have them fitted, but apparently LED brake lights need a resistor added to make things work properly. There's a tech bulletin on the Command website about it.

    I'll post up some photos later.

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    Sounding a bit flash there steve! What next? A/c? Intercooler? Paint job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    Sounding a bit flash there steve! What next? A/c? Intercooler? Paint job?
    Likely not. You know me - can't rush things
    Just giving it a decent going over before an outback trip at end of July, then its back to its normal role as tow tug and mobile bed.
    I'll make a start on the 120 one of these years too...

    Steve
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    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    Would like to see some pics and more info on the cruise control when you get a chance one day.

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    Here's a link to the kit on the manufacturers website: Products
    In the menu there are also the installation manuals and some useful tech and troubleshooting documents.
    The installation manual is pretty comprehensive and well worth the read if you want to get a feel for whats involved.

    I bought mine from AutoelecAU Lightforce, Anderson plugs, UHF Radios, CB Radios, Batteries. via their ebay store. Have bought a bit of gear from them and its always shipped quickly and no issues so far.

    I'll definitely post some photos of how mine is installed when I get a chance to take some in the daylight.

    Steve
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    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    Thanks steve, will put it on the "will do it one day" list😊

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    Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday.

    Any reason you went vacuum operated?

    Any reason (other then analogue Speedo) you went with propshaft sensor? I put an electric Speedo in mine so I believe I can use that with another model cruise control.


    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCo. View Post
    Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday.

    Any reason you went vacuum operated?

    Any reason (other then analogue Speedo) you went with propshaft sensor? I put an electric Speedo in mine so I believe I can use that with another model cruise control.


    Thanks!
    Answer to both is simply that I needed something reasonably quickly that I knew would work. Shingleback has had one for a while now so I knew it was a proven system with the Isuzu.
    I've got Td5 speedo in the shed that I haven't got around to fitting yet so definitely considered going the all electronic route, but didn't need to add another task to my pre-trip todo list.
    If going electronic you definitely need to do your research regarding what systems are compatible.

    Steve
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    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    Some photos

    Propshaft speed sensor and magnets


    Command module


    Electronic module


    Vacuum actuator is the blue device tucked under the drivers guard. it has a cable coming out of it to pull on the throttle arm


    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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