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Thread: What to look for in a Isuzu 110/Stage 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    You need a tacho to know when to change gears?

    You can;t over rev it, it has an engine governor built in the injection pump
    I don't need one, but I want one. I've found it's nice to know the engine speed in a variety of situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by wovenrovings View Post
    By the way stage ones ran lower high range gearing than 110 isuzus. You hit the governor at 100kmph. 2nd is low enough to start of empty so you could probably fit larger tires without changing the gearing, on the road anyway.
    The brakes are the weak link to speed and larger tires in a stage one.
    In 4th? Bloody hell. What is the governed engine speed? Do they have enough grunt to be able to pull a bit taller gearing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wovenrovings View Post
    I......

    Stage 1 isuzus seem to have a lot more diesel rattle for some reason.
    I think there are several reasons for that -

    1. The Series mudguards are less of a sound shield than are the double ones on the 110.

    2. Most 110s have at least some insulation.

    3. I remember being told years ago (by Fred Smith) that the engines fitted to the 110s had a slightly lower compression ratio, I assume with a different head gasket, to reduce the knock.

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    Edited with apologies to Dobbo and thethink

    Quote Originally Posted by thethink View Post
    I always found my eyes/ears perfectly adequate -

    if she is bouncing around, then it's clearly idling;
    if you can't hear her, then it's about half way;
    if you can't hear yourself, then it's on the governor!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    OK thanks. So most of you just drive around without a tachometer? Hmm...
    They're not hard to hook up. I use the factory one in my rangie driven from the alternator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I think there are several reasons for that -

    1. The Series mudguards are less of a sound shield than are the double ones on the 110.

    2. Most 110s have at least some insulation.

    3. I remember being told years ago (by Fred Smith) that the engines fitted to the 110s had a slightly lower compression ratio, I assume with a different head gasket, to reduce the knock.

    John
    From a sample group of two (I know it's not much to go on), but the engine in my Stage One Isuzu, has much more of a diesel rattle than my 110 Isuzu.
    Bonnet up, standing outside the vehicle, there is a considerable difference.
    Both have about the same kms on them

    The Stage One also pulls much harder, but I'm guessing that's probably more a function of less weight and lower gearing.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bd1 View Post
    From a sample group of two (I know it's not much to go on), but the engine in my Stage One Isuzu, has much more of a diesel rattle than my 110 Isuzu.
    Bonnet up, standing outside the vehicle, there is a considerable difference.
    Both have about the same kms on them

    The Stage One also pulls much harder, but I'm guessing that's probably more a function of less weight and lower gearing.

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    Injection timing?

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    So what high range ratio did the 110's run, and how hard is it to find one of those gearsets and swap it in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Injection timing?
    Could be.

    When I tried to check the timing on the 110, I removed the cover rolled it over but couldn't find the mark. Gave up in the end, and as I was getting the injectors professionally, done asked them to check the timing.
    turns out they couldn't find the mark either.
    Looks like I'll have to spill time it, but since it runs well enough I haven't been motivated enough to do it.


    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bd1 View Post
    Could be.

    When I tried to check the timing on the 110, I removed the cover rolled it over but couldn't find the mark. Gave up in the end, and as I was getting the injectors professionally, done asked them to check the timing.
    turns out they couldn't find the mark either.
    Looks like I'll have to spill time it, but since it runs well enough I haven't been motivated enough to do it.


    Cheers

    Shouldn't you be looking for the mark on the front crankshaft pulley? They're the ones that are graduated with degrees. The one on the fuel pump drive gear is only to make sure it goes in lined up correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    So what high range ratio did the 110's run, and how hard is it to find one of those gearsets and swap it in?
    0.996:1. I don't know how easy they are to find, never needed to, but I would be surprised if they could not be bought from any dealer at least since there are large numbers of military 110s still in service with them at the very least. Mind you, I don't think they are cheap either.

    I don't know if that ratio was used in any other application.

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