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    4BD1T - high-revving, shutdown problem?

    Hi guys, my 4BD1(after market T) decided on startup today to run straight up to the governor for about 1 minute and wouldn't shutdown, then shut itself off after about a minute (it's still on a pull stop cable while I'm living O/S *sigh*. My dad who was driving it freaked out a tad given he had not experienced such a thing before... not that I can say I have either!


    and before you ask, yep the problem didn't repeat after trying it again - started normally and shutdown as expected....


    ideas?

    I thought possible sticky throttle linkage, but he reckons it worked fine...

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    Sticky governor maybe

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    Possibility of getting oil into the intake from the turbo bearings. If this is the case it is a very dangerous situation, and is only likely to get worse. The symptoms as described could indicate that oil is getting there after shut down, but not enough to be a worry while running (yet) - does it by any chance have an accumulator to keep pressure up to the turbo bearings after the engine is shut off?

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    thanks guys...

    well I shall pass both of these back to the current driver to have a look - JD you might be right, it has done a lot of sitting around in the last 18 months, might not have even been started for a month or so. Any simply explained procedure to perform a check for this? or is it a demount the turbo job?

    I hope you are wrong and Bearman is correct though!

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    If it is cable throttle it could be simply a sticky cable after 18 months standing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    thanks guys...

    well I shall pass both of these back to the current driver to have a look - JD you might be right, it has done a lot of sitting around in the last 18 months, might not have even been started for a month or so. Any simply explained procedure to perform a check for this? or is it a demount the turbo job?

    I hope you are wrong and Bearman is correct though!
    Not sure how easy to do on that installation, but take the pipe from the turbo to the intake manifold off - if it was oil from the turbo the inside of this will be oily - it should have no trace of oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Not sure how easy to do on that installation, but take the pipe from the turbo to the intake manifold off - if it was oil from the turbo the inside of this will be oily - it should have no trace of oil.

    John
    Unless of course you've fed the breather from the rocker cover into the intake upstream of the turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Unless of course you've fed the breather from the rocker cover into the intake upstream of the turbo

    could well be right = I recently started a turbo phaser perkins engine that had been sitting a couple of years-- only 400 hrs total since I installed it new in a tractor for a friend. This was after I released a stuck turbo seal.
    When I got it going it had masive blowby but fortunately it vents to air not above the turbo. Has now settled

    mmm !! it would go well in a MK3 inter ---leave the underdrive - drive- overdrive box on the bellhousing == put in a 3 speed powershift ----
    must go to inter chapter and raise some bloodpressure

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