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    Strange EGT and boost issues...

    When cruising on the highway (usually into a headwind), my EGTs drop by 50 deg or so if I drop down from 5th to 4th and put my foot flat to the floor. Anyone else experience this? - speed is the same... (same goes if I am accelerating in 4th or 5th at the same speed).

    Also, is there any chance my wastegate can be sticking??? Normally, when I hit 10.5psi the boost pressure drops then picks back up, whichh I assumed was the wastegate opening. 2 or 3 times on a recent trip, I could get the boost up to 13psi or so...???

    EDIT - thinking out loud, I realise that the engine will be flowing more air in 4th than in 5th (at the same road speed), however I thought the extra fuel would more than compensate???

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    I suspect this is normal , I have the same experience in the 300tdi disco and R380 , Climbing up a big hill in 5th , engine under considerably more load , drop back to 4th ,she starts droping EGT even with pedal to metal.

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    the engine is outputting less torque so you're not loading it up as much.

    less load=less heat

    perfectly normal.
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    what he said

    higher reves = less time for the hot gass to stay in the cylinder before being replaced with cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    the engine is outputting less torque so you're not loading it up as much.

    less load=less heat

    perfectly normal.
    But the "load" is the same. You are still pushing the same mass at the same velocity. I am sure the torque output of the engine would be the same or higher.

    Hoowever - I can understand the concept that Clean32 describes - higher revs = hiigher flow rate of air - I just thought that would be compensated for by extra fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    But the "load" is the same. You are still pushing the same mass at the same velocity. I am sure the torque output of the engine would be the same or higher.

    Hoowever - I can understand the concept that Clean32 describes - higher revs = hiigher flow rate of air - I just thought that would be compensated for by extra fuel.
    Torque would be same at wheels but less at crankshaft because the gearing multiplies engine torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    But the "load" is the same. You are still pushing the same mass at the same velocity. I am sure the torque output of the engine would be the same or higher.

    Hoowever - I can understand the concept that Clean32 describes - higher revs = hiigher flow rate of air - I just thought that would be compensated for by extra fuel.
    ok there are 3 things to consider

    1 as i already wrote, the sink time for heat to transfer though the liner and to be removed by the coolant is reduced at higher reves, this is because the dwell time or burn time is reduced thus more of the heat is removed ver the tail pipe.
    2. the speed you are traveling at ( including load dictates the amount of energy you need IE how much fule you will be using. so regardless of what gear you are in you will be using the same amount of fuel.

    3 because you are at higher reves burning the same amount of fuel. that means you are using less fuel per burn just that there are more burns per distance traveled. now with a NA motor that would ,mean that there is a full cylinder of cold air each burn with a lesser amount of fuel. with a turbo this effect is greater. at 10 psi is about 1.3 times the amount of air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush65 View Post
    Torque would be same at wheels but less at crankshaft because the gearing multiplies engine torque.
    Ah, yes of course. Thanks John!

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    Mine behaves in a similar way. On a hill will make 550 deg and 11 psi at 100 ks in fifth but have to change down long before the gear fails due to the weakness of the Santana box
    I actually lose speed by changing forth as out of its best torque curve, make less boost (9 psi) and have a much lower egt even if I nail it. Think mine needs pump work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Mine behaves in a similar way. On a hill will make 550 deg and 11 psi at 100 ks in fifth but have to change down long before the gear fails due to the weakness of the Santana box
    I actually lose speed by changing forth as out of its best torque curve, make less boost (9 psi) and have a much lower egt even if I nail it. Think mine needs pump work
    Mine will do 120 at 10psi boost and 650-720ish EGT (pre turbo) on most of the hills over here (which are likely flatter than where you are).

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