Thread: My county is better than your puma

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

6revious statement i hav made has been that 4bd1 (NA) is around the 50hp mark and i was told i am a nutter! then the next minute someone says "4bd1T is a big difference to the 4bd1(NA) even getting twice the torque and HP around the 100-120hp" doesnt that mean that half of that is 50hp?????? hence meaning i was correct or is dividing numerals done different these days?

4BD1(NA) is 85 bhp or 99 bhp depending on spec. Civvie landies from 84-90 had the 99 bhp version.

Compare that to a 2.5D, which is more or less the NA version of the 300.

Now it must be past your bedtime? Run off to the wigwam...

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

1:that is in america where they run things on obscene amounts of boost/fueling(60,70,80psi) and dont care if the thing blows up because they can buy one for half the price we can. so what things does he hav done to the engine?
2:save money on razzors
3:know nothing, know something or know too much, how is this determined!!!
4:even dougal takes the time to explain things and not just hav a "thats it no questions about it way" and he loves his isuzu's and likes to argue there points, so maybe u can hav a bit more of a discusion and not just throw it out the window once someone quierys anything about them....
5:dobbo please take a look at the figures of the 4bd1 (NA) compared to the Tdi's
6revious statement i hav made has been that 4bd1 (NA) is around the 50hp mark and i was told i am a nutter! then the next minute someone says "4bd1T is a big difference to the 4bd1(NA) even getting twice the torque and HP around the 100-120hp" doesnt that mean that half of that is 50hp?????? hence meaning i was correct or is dividing numerals done different these days?

OK... Just to make everyone feel better , pm me an address, I'll send you a short movie of a very hard working 4BD1T Feel free to post it up or put it on the U-Tube thing as I cant do it here. I'm not saying its better but it is good

pm to fishing_go_overhead@hotmail.com

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

pm to fishing_go_overhead@hotmail.com

Thats email to, Hit my user name, Then contact info, PM, send me a email address via PM. For your own good don't put it here as the world will see it
Be happy to mail you the short movie and would encourage you to post it up

Friggin hell, here I am head down, tail up trying to get a quote finished and the boys are into it

and I missed it all

nighty night, bed time for this lil black duck too......

Originally Posted by rick130

Friggin hell, here I am head down, tail up trying to get a quote finished and the boys are into it

and I missed it all

nighty night, bed time for this lil black duck too......

Originally Posted by dobbo

My engine alone is worth $3500, the rest of the car is just pure profit to you. So are you in or not. I'll put down cash to match the red book value of your Defender.

My offer is valid for 24hrs after this post, if you decline then you must admit defeat, post up a formal apology and never speak ill of a 4BD1 again.

You must have a super special N/A 4BD1, to be worth $3500 grand as opposed to 2kish like most others......and for it to easily sit on 140km/hr!.....you sure it doesn't have a hidden turbo?




Or Hiclones

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

1:that is in america where they run things on obscene amounts of boost/fueling(60,70,80psi) and dont care if the thing blows up because they can buy one for half the price we can. so what things does he hav done to the engine?

That 4BD1T is completely untouched internally. Only mods were external, compound turbos and the manifolds to make them fit, a bigger fuel injection pump and injector nozzles.

Estimated 500+hp (running over 5 times stock fuelling), but the gearbox was a problem.

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

5:dobbo please take a look at the figures of the 4bd1 (NA) compared to the Tdi's
6revious statement i hav made has been that 4bd1 (NA) is around the 50hp mark and i was told i am a nutter! then the next minute someone says "4bd1T is a big difference to the 4bd1(NA) even getting twice the torque and HP around the 100-120hp" doesnt that mean that half of that is 50hp?????? hence meaning i was correct or is dividing numerals done different these days?

Here it all is again in very simple terms.
4BD1 (no turbo) 85 or 99hp (landy) or 106hp (truck).
4BD1T from 116-135hp stock.
4BD1T with boost and fuel wound up (no component changed) ~170hp.
4BD1T with bigger turbo, intercooler and fuel wound up 200~hp.
4BD1T with compound turbos, big intercooler and bigger injector pump 500+hp.