Thread: Stronger front axle - what is it?

Originally Posted by rick130

Eccentric bushes can 'fix' the GU camber/castor angles somewhat.

I can't recall what we ended up with on ours, only had one side altered to stop the constant wander/pull to the left and shoulder scrub.

Any idea what the KPI is on the GQ vs GU ?

[edit] Don't worry about me, just remembered the combination includes a Rover swivel :hand slapping forehead:

[2nd edit] One thing I love about the GU front end is the much better turning circle over a GQ (and a Landy) thanks to the wider track.

Yeah can't use the GU eccentric bushes on the Rover housing, and the GU has too much of a different KPI to do a similar thing on the Rover housing.

KPI;

GQ 7 to 8 degree

GU 13.75 to 15.25 degree

Rover 7 degree

Originally Posted by isuzurover

The splines in the CV star.



So even if you could squeeze the GQ CVs in, you would still need custom inner axles as the GU inners are too long.

Ben,

I think you meant GU CV's? I was looking at using the whole inner, CV and outer axle of the GU. Spline counts are the same either end. GU inner is a bit longer from what you've just said - right? Do you know how much? If not too much and they are wasted then a little trim should solve. Then the GU CV's are bigger right? This could be a problem. Do you have a link or the pic your quote was from?

Otherwise I stick with the GQ axles

Thanks

I think GU CVs are similar in size to 80/100 series toyotas at 105mm diam. They won't go inside a Rover swivel housing.
Wagoo.

Originally Posted by the_grubb

Ben,

I think you meant GU CV's? I was looking at using the whole inner, CV and outer axle of the GU. Spline counts are the same either end. GU inner is a bit longer from what you've just said - right? Do you know how much? If not too much and they are wasted then a little trim should solve. Then the GU CV's are bigger right? This could be a problem. Do you have a link or the pic your quote was from?

Otherwise I stick with the GQ axles

Thanks

Yes, sorry, GU.

GQ C.V. joints - Patrol 4x4 - Nissan Patrol Forum

both cvs seem the same in the pic...

are the GQ radius arms shorter than Rover?

regarding cv's Mal Story had a longfield 80 series cv in his hand once and with a quick measure,figured it could fit in a rover coil swivel by:

#1, turning the cv bell down to the dia of the flat spots on the outside, the bell on these is very thick compared to a stock AEU2522.

and in conjunction with

#2, some machining on the inside of the swivel ball....

this was just a quick 2 minute measure up...never followed up...

I'm sure the point has been made, but just in case the GU cv's are larger than GQ, but stub shafts are same size so they end up similar strength.

Patrol radius arms are same length as rover (from chassis bush to axle centre), but centres between bushes at the axle end is much greater (even greater than cruiser).

hi John,

was there also something about the bearings???? being smaller on the Nissan than the Toy that stopped the internals on the Nissan being upgraded to what size a Toy could be??? not sure if this was a Toy 60 series or 105 etc etc

Originally Posted by Bush65

I'm sure the point has been made, but just in case the GU cv's are larger than GQ, but stub shafts are same size so they end up similar strength.

Patrol radius arms are same length as rover (from chassis bush to axle centre), but centres between bushes at the axle end is much greater (even greater than cruiser).

So what your saying is: If you upgrade to GU cv's (assuming/given they are larger) then your limiting factor becomes the stub shafts - which aren't that much stronger than a GQ cv?