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    Garry, Wagoo...... I was unaware of the short bellhousing on 101's, which takes the gloss off the auto option and didn't think of the winch PTO.

    The stall speed in the torque convertor I have is about 1800.

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    Thanks - nothing that could not be overcome though. If I were 20 years younger I would have a go at putting a R380 or a ZF on the LT95 but I am getting too old to do it cold these days. I did a Holden Getrag to a Jag V12 about 15 years ago and I know that anything is doable - most of the issues have thought about - just a 5 speed would be nice without having to reach for that O/D lever.

    Was hoping that someone had done the conversion but I guess not - so will stay as is.

    Thanks for all the comments and input - has been great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Only passing but is a good option - would be Ok changing into O/d but when changing out (essentially changing down a gear) may be problematic. The O/d is fully synchronised but like many gearboxes it requires a slow movement to not get ahead of the synchros - I normally double shuffle it when changing down which works well (mostly). If I changed down without double shuffling the movement is so slow that I immediately need to also change back from 4th to 3rd on the gearbox (unless on the flat) as you loose too many revs.

    The type of change suggested would be OK engaging but most likely too quick when disengaging but obviously I have not tested it.

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    I guess you haven't heard an Eaton 2 speed grind it's gears when you miss a change!

    Take a look at this Dana Corp publication of the diff shift mechanisms. http://www2.dana.com/pdf/AXSM-0029.pdf

    You may be able to adapt the same mechanism to operate the selector rod on the O/D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Garry, Wagoo...... I was unaware of the short bellhousing on 101's, which takes the gloss off the auto option and didn't think of the winch PTO.

    The stall speed in the torque convertor I have is about 1800.

    DL
    I have seen a C4 adapted to a Series tranfercase and the whole assembly was very short, so to an LT95 T/case shouldn't be longer than a 101 assembly, which due to the short bell is 100mm shorter than a standard RR/110 LT95.
    The 101 winch due to its high gearing, and its mounting point, being cantilevered off the left hand chassis rail,on a light chassis with so few crossmembers was IMO only really intended to quickly and accurately position artillary pieces once unhitched from the vehicle, rather than for heavy duty self recovery.
    If 101s weren't so rare, and presumably Garry wants to keep his vehicle reasonably authentic, the winch and PTO unit would IMO best be sold off and replaced by a conventional mid mounted PTO winch between the chassis rails. A friend who travels extensively and solo through the outback is doing exactly that to his 101 camper, but he's front mounting the winch for balance due to the weight of the rear camper section.
    Bill.

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    Hi Wagoo,

    The Ritters adaptor between the C9 and TC is about 6" long from memory, which now occurs to me is just to keep engine and trans mounting points in the stock locations in a RRC in 1980. It could easily be made shorter.

    From memory the auto output shaft had the input to the LT95 welded on and there is a fair bit of shaft out the end of the auto to play with. Should have taken photos at the time.

    I still have the whole original LT95 from my 74 sitting on the floor in the shed and can't imagine how you'd fit a clutch in one with a bellhousing 100mm shorter, but it must have been so.

    DL

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