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how about this for an idea...
production car racing - like IPRA but:
1) must have been available for sale in the last 2 years
2) classes based upon drive away price
3) regulated safety equipment must be installed (cage, fuel pod etc)
4) tires can be changed (must be available 'off the shelf')
5) cars must be road registered, and arrive under their on power.
NO OTHER MODS :)
I would watch it, and it would actually mean something.
As far as I'm aware, neither the Ford or Holden body is the same as a road going car. One is shortened, the other lengthened? To make them fit onto the common wheelbase?
I though I read or watched a behind the scenes build up of both, no body panels will fit from the factory, they are all hand made to suit, the vehicles just resemble a road car.
The DTM series is quite interesting, even with only two manufacturers this year.
I agree, the bodies are modified to conform to a spec. Most of which is around the back door area I believe. Slightly shorter rear doors and lower roof lines IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandtoyz
Paul
On something different,did anyone watch this years Bathurst 12 hour.
The wet spiced things up,but even without it,it was still a great race.
Pity the V8's weren't as interesting as that most of the time.
was a bit more interesting that the usual, particularly the "tree" incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
Paul
Bring back touring cars on a big scale!!!!
Mr. Eager says to Mr. Lowndes - "I want you to drive for my Eager's Holden Dealership team" in the ATCC 2011
Here is an SS V8 commodore. Here is a body kit. Here is a couple of mechanics. Here are some tyres & cool rims. Here are all the performance options available from FACTORY for this car all of which have been HOMOLOGATED
GO RACE!
In the opposite camp the same thing happens at Ford. Same thing could happen at Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Nissian, Toyota etc
Catorgorise it into an engine size class e.g. 5.0L or less, naturally aspirated e.g. no turbo 'ricer' skylines & supras or supercharged mercedes
This will hopefully encourage the manufactures to develope the most powerful engine under 5.0L and the best suspension from factory of which they have to sell a certian amount before they can race it (homologation)
Well something along those lines... sounds vaguely familar somehow though... :wasntme:
BRING ON THE NEXT SUPERCAR SCARE!!! :D
Thats the production car formula that you've described. That racing was never as big as Group A or V8 supercars. The problem was that there wasn't the close racing or action to provide an exciting spectator sport, something that only parity seems to give. The production cars used to run as a supporting catagory rather than as the main event. Likewise the 12hr has always been second teir to the V8's
Thats not to say that it couldn't be made to work.
Until the other categories of racing work out how they can manage to have cars going four abreast around a corner with each of them having a chance of coming out in front, they will never be as exciting as the little Aussie Racing Cars. :p
While a lot of us have our own theories about how the formula should be regulated and what would be good for motor sport, nothing will change while the current formula continues to bring in the money it does at present.
Someone suggested that it is all about entertainment. I suspect that is partly true, but it is really about business. If it makes money, it is good. If it doesn't, it will be changed.
I assume the current regulations are allowing the sport to bring in enough money to keep the accountants happy. They are interested in what is good for the bottom line, not what is good for motor sport.
Thats also an issue that needs to be looked at from the tracks perspective - designing tracks that promote passing opportunities.
Its the (american)Ford bean counters that will ultimately change what we see on TV.