Huge organization. It wont take them long to be competitive as they will be one of the 3 big teams that can throw bucket loads of dollars at the cars. Even if Ambrose is 90% with the big dollars spent on the cars he will be top 2 or 3.
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Huge organization. It wont take them long to be competitive as they will be one of the 3 big teams that can throw bucket loads of dollars at the cars. Even if Ambrose is 90% with the big dollars spent on the cars he will be top 2 or 3.
That is what a team needs . Just need to look at other teams , HRT , DJR ,SBR , when they have unlimited funds they keep winnings.
The same with team members if one has got more sponsorship the team can buy better parts , better mechanics , & better people all around.
That was the main reason Brock kept winning , he had unlimited funds & when that run out , that was the end of it for Brock.
There are plenty of good drivers capable of winning every weekend but don't have the money backing to achieve it.
At the moment Red Bull are the ones with the money & if Penske is prepared to spend the money it should make for some good close racing & make it worth racing again .
That's why when COTF started and we had a few different winners/podiums people thought that we now had parity. BJR were looking pretty good, but now they are also rans. Money will always win unfortunately. The days of the underdog are numbered.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1950landy
You have made some very incorrect statements. DJR do not have bucket loads of cash atm, that may change when penske come in. They pretty much run on a knife blade atm and Dick himself has never made any serious money with most of what he had going back into the team or getting ripped off. As for Brock you are way off the mark. Even with HDT they did not have unlimited funds, they were on a very tight budget and did not even have back up cars and limited engines and parts. Even into the 90s they did not have unlimited funds even when it went to HRT. And I would like to know what you mean was the end of Brock. He was competitive in even sub standard cars that were a long way sub standard. Then there was also his age. Sorry but he was even really competitive in 97 until Skaife broke the car and he was in his 50s.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1950landy
There no two ways about it, Brock did drive for the best funded, factory connected team in his heyday with the backing of the cigarette giant Molboro, he was an extremely talented driver too.
The DJR cars are capable front runners and once MA gets his head around the things, he will be up the front and might well be the driver to break the T8 stronghold, just like he did when he entered the series and crushed HRT.
There is no doubt Ambrose will be a shot in the arm for the series, it will bring my interest back and I only hope he gets under the skins of Holden fans again too ;)
That is fairly debatable. His early days the team did not have a large budget. Even in the late 70s the budget was not huge and there were other teams with similar budgets. The early 80s the budgets did start to go up, but also remember at this time HDT was a private entity with very limited support from Holden. The genius behind HDT was Harry Firth who could get so much more out of a car and Brock who could drive a car while conserving the vehicle, money played very little part in this. Brock owned the team and most of the support came from dealers, not Holden. There were other teams with as large budgets. Marlboro was just a sponsor, just like Shell etc. The big budgets came into play with the evolution of HRT and FPV in the 90s. You reckon Holden teams had budgets, look at the Nissan works teams that Skaife drove for with the 4wd Nissan GTR. These cars were around $1 million each without spares, the average Holden and Ford at the time was around $200 to $230k with spares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizz302
Its probably about time he gives it away,but he was a bloody good driver.
Ingall considers co-driving
A bit of news.
Whincup: Ambrose won
Ambrose to use #66.
Number 66 selected for Ambrose wildcard - Speedcafe
Now long now!!!
Lakeside unveil for Ambrose's Sydney livery - Speedcafe