Thread: you're not paranoid if some IS actually watching you--

I dont see a problem with it...

If you arent doing wrong, who cares...

I also believe in compulsory DNA mapping at birth...

Now I've opened a can of worms....

Originally Posted by tombraider

I dont see a problem with it...

If you arent doing wrong, who cares...

I also believe in compulsory DNA mapping at birth...

Now I've opened a can of worms....

It's not the DNA at birth thing that's the problem, we already take blood smears, and in the USA they take prints at birth - foot only, I think.

The problem is who has access to the information, and when, and why?

Oh, and the cost. I read in the newspaper that the forensics lab in Sydney was running more than 12 months behind in all DNA based evidence. It might be a long, long time before anyone got around to testing the samples.


Cheers
Simon

yea,, its data security thats the problem,,

if they can get your ID,,
why not your DNA?

My problem is this how does it add to safety of society

The bad guys aren't stopped by it, they might be more easily traced in movements after the event when they are tracking what they did leading up to the event.

DNA sampling on joining armed forces or emergency services okay for body identification in event of death or maiming.

DNA national crime base okay for detecting criminals who are usually multiple event occurrences to catch and lock away.

But it wont stop crime or terrorists so why introduce it in under that badge.

Govt and Govt secret agecies need to be challenged to justify removal of freedoms and imposition of costs

Originally Posted by cartm58

My problem is this how does it add to safety of society

The bad guys aren't stopped by it, they might be more easily traced in movements after the event when they are tracking what they did leading up to the event.

Perhaps you've answered your own question. If they can trace or track them, then they can probably pick them up with a lot more ease. If the police know your dna, blood, finger prints or whatever from wherever, then they can match it so long as you've left cells somewhere - it's a good deterent if you know you can be found. Perhaps it'll help refine the gene pool also. It'd also be good opportunity for those that are innocent but are found guilty to prove their innocence.

I think it seems a bit silly. I don't believe the point is if your doing nothing wrong then don't fear I think it is more like we have a right not to be watched constantly even if we are doing something wrong.

I guess if your going to do something wrong just leave your license at home?

Also though, each step just locks society down more which in my eyes is negative and it seems to be happening more and more. And the more rules and license chips the easier it is to abuse the system.

The only people that it makes a difference to is those that do the wrong thing, and not the whole of society.

MMMM, Security indeed.
Lots of what ifs here, lets consider one.
Your DNA profile indicates that you have a tendancy toward glaucoma from around age 50.
You rock up for your licence renewal at 46 and because during the 5 year life of your new licence, your predisposition may eventuate, you are placed on a restriction, no night driving or driving alone. This is presented to you by the 20 yo behind the counter.
You previously didn't know.

What now?

Ralph