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I agree and disagree with his stance. He is a dipstick as is most of the FIA. But there has to be some sort of cap or equaliser to keep the sport competative as it has become quite a farce over the last 10 odd years with only the top financed teams able to be competative and win races. Do not watch much GP anymore because of this.
Even V8 supercars are pretty much there now with only Vodafone and HSV factory teams being very competative.

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A deal is struck, Mosley agrees not to stand again

Max Mosley, Monaco GP 2009
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The FIA World Council meeting this morning in Paris produced a surprise settlement in the FIA-FOTA dispute. Yesterday Max Mosley was saying that he would stand again in the FIA elections in October and was preparing legal actions against the FOTA teams. Today, that is all over. Mosley says he will not stand again and the teams are happy, getting what they wanted in terms of governance and the FIA getting a commitment from the teams to stay in the World Championship until the end of 2012. The resolution came after the FIA World Council, chaired by the Deputy President Nick Craw, asked FIA President Max Mosley, commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone and Ferrari representative Luca di Montezemolo to find a solution. The three men then went to a different meeting room and hammered out a deal. Given the terms that were agreed it is fair to say that Ecclestone probably sided with Montezemolo, as the day before the meeting Mosley was saying that he would stand for election for another term of office and continue his legal actions against the FOTA teams. Mosley will now stand down in October and a new president will be found. It is fairly clear from the World Council membership that losing Mosley was not what was wanted, but that seems to have been a necessary element in getting a deal. The FIA will now start looking for a suitable replacement. Much will depend on the style of the management the FIA wants in the future. That is not the primary consideration at the moment as the most important point is to get F1 back on track and the FIA announced after the meeting that there will be 13 entries for the World Championship next year: the existing 10 teams plus the three new teams nominated by the FIA. The existing teams have given assurances that they will help the new teams with technical matters to ensure that they are ready in time for the new championship.
There will no doubt be much speculation as to whether or not the resolution is a defeat for Mosley, but the key point is that F1 has been saved from what would have been a disastous break-up. It is clear that all sides were willing to accept the decisions made and thus, the sport can move ahead. There are still other problems that need to be solved, not least the future commercial deal after 2012. We hear that there was some talk about this in the settlement that was agreed and it seems that Ecclestone has made some concessions with more income for the teams, but it remains to be seen how this will turn out in the end.
There is believed to be some compromise for the new teams with the Cosworth engine users being allowed 20,000rpm for one year, although this is yet to be confirmed.
There are many rumours suggesting that the next president of the FIA will be Jean Todt, who was Max Mosley's chosen successor. This is really down to the FIA clubs to decide but there is no doubt that many of the teams are opposed to the idea.
It is anticipated that FOTA will remain together in the years ahead and will continue to work towards creating a better sport. It is also expected that Williams, Force India and the three new teams will be given the opportunity to become part of the organisation once again.



FIA confirms 2010 Formula One entry list


At the meeting of the World Sport Council in Paris today the FIA confirmed the 13 teams that will race in Formula 1 next season. Before the meeting a peace deal was hammering out between the FIA and FOTA, the FIA accepting FOTA's demands while FOTA dropped it threats of a breakaway series.
As a result, all the current 10 F1 teams are now entered for 2010, along with the 3 new entrants that were previously announced be the FIA. The full list consists of Ferrari, McLaren-Mercedes, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Red Bull Racing, Williams-Toyota, Force India-Mercedes, Brawn GP, Campos-Cosworth, Manor-Cosworth and Team US F1-Cosworth.
The FIA press release added:
"All currently competing teams have committed to the FIA Formula One World Championship."
"There will be no alternative series or championship and the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to 29 April 2009."
"As part of this agreement, the teams will, within two years, reduce the costs of competing in the championship to the level of the early 1990s. The manufacturer teams have agreed to assist the new entries for 2010 by providing technical assistance."
"The manufacturer teams have further agreed to the permanent and continuing role of the FIA as the sport’s governing body. They have also committed to the commercial arrangements for the FIA Formula One World Championship until 2012 and have agreed to renegotiate and extend this contract before the end of that period."
"All teams will adhere to an upgraded version of the governance provisions of the 1998 Concorde Agreement."

hmm,
so is this-
F1: Cosworth wins FIA standard engine tender for 2010 - Neowin Forums

still a goer?

Look as a huuuge f1 fan I would have been devastated if the series had split...

Poor old Bernie, another $10000000000, to put in the Bank, he might just have to give up the cream teas...

F@&#*^! Max !

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JUNE 26, 2009

A return to war?


Max Mosley has written to FOTA President Luca di Montezemolo saying that he is reconsidering his decision to stand down as FIA President in October. In a letter leaked to the media he said that he has decided on this course of action because of FOTA's "deliberate attempt to mislead the media" after the deal was struck on Wednesday, regarding the role of Michel Boeri, the president of the FIA Senate, who was initially rumoured to be taking over all F1 negotiations for the FIA.
That rumour was quickly dispelled and no-one is now seriously suggesting that anyone other than Mosley is at the helm for the next three months.
The effect of Mosley's letter is that the hearts of F1 fans all over the world will sink again. There was joy on Wednesday that the sport's problems were settled. Now these hopes appear to have been dashed again.
Mosley is obviously upset by the interpretation in some sections of the media that the settlement with FOTA was a major political defeat for him, arguing that he achieved what he wanted. This is true, but only up to a point. The fact remains that much of dispute was settled before the Wednesday meeting and that the real sticking point was the question of governance and, from FOTA's point of view, the presence of Mosley himself. What happened behind closed doors in Paris on Wednesday remains secret but after the meeting Mosley said he would not seek re-election. That seems to have been enough for the problems to have been solved. Now the problem is likely to be revived.
If there was a problem with what was said after the World Council, it would have been wiser if the FIA rather than Mosley himself had written to FOTA. By doing it himself Mosley will underline the perception that he thinks of himself as the FIA. He may not like that interpretation, but that is very much how it is seen in the F1 world, and by fans across the world.
What is needed in F1 is peace and sensible discussion about the future and with his attitude - based on this occasion on what appears to be a personal matter - Mosley is threatening the equilibrium of the sport again. It does not ultimately matter how Mosley is viewed by the wider world (in any case, he would probably not wish to hear what many people think after last year's sex scandal). What is important is how the FIA is viewed. Its job is to protect the sport and by calling the Paris deal into question Mosley is throwing F1 into turmoil once again.
The threat of a renewed breakaway, if it comes, will put the ball back into the FIA court once again. The last deal seemed to have been sorted out without much FIA involvement, beyond rubber-stamping the back room settlement agreed by Mosley, Montezemolo and Bernie Ecclestone. This sadly underlined the impression that the FIA is a weak body, unwilling to do anything that would upset its principal. It remains unlikely that the FIA will do anything to remove Mosley from office.
That would in any case require a General Assembly, a process which would take several months. By the time that happens it will be almost time for the regular annual meeting at which there will be the election for the FIA President. This means that unless he relents and agrees to be bound by the deal struck in Paris, the sport's agonies will be prolonged.
If the dispute does revives, there will be no doubt about the key issue. There will be no hiding behind budget caps. If the presence of Mosley as FIA President was only one issue beforehand, it will now become the central question.
Mosley says, quite rightly, that he is still president of the FIA with "the full authority of that office" and that it is up to the FIA to decide on who leads the federation. This is all true but the FOTA reaction to the letter will probably take us back to where we were before the FIA World Council meeting on Wednesday with the FOTA teams once again turning their back on the FIA and heading off to create their own World Championship. One cannot imagine that they will risk ignoring his threat to stand again.
If the FOTA teams say they are breaking away again then the FIA will once again be faced with the decision of whether it wishes to destroy Formula 1 to keep its president or whether it is wiser to accept that he has gone too far and gently remove him from office and get on with the more important business of running the sport. It is very clear that FOTA does not wish to replace the FIA as its sanctioning body. This has been said over and over again, but the problem is with Mosley's management style. Although the FIA is a long-established institution, and has some influence in areas beyond the sport, its fundamental relevance and value comes from its sporting involvement. The F1 World Championship is key to that. The other FIA World Championships are there but are of little importance in the overall scheme of things. Protecting the integrity of the FIA is thus the key point for the federation and it is a clear choice of whether Mosley stays or goes.
The other sad point that must be made is that the letter creates the impression that Mosley is clutching at straws to claw his way back.

Originally Posted by rick130

F@&#*^! Max !

Do you mean sado-massichistic sex with 6 prostitutes in my rented apartment while my wife sits at home making tea Max?

what a mess!!