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Thread: LLAMS electronic height controller for D3/D4/RRS

  1. #51
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    Graeme,

    I received the loom form Davies Performance and started installing it when I realised that there is a loose wire that is not coneected to anything on the loom. Its been stripped back so I'm assuming it's supposed to be crimped onto one of the connectors. It is a black wire that I'm assuming goes between the 2 #1 connectors on the loom. I can see that there is a blank space on one of the connectors.

    Is there supposed to be a wire in each of the sockets? If so this is where the wire is supposed to be. Therefore how do I recrimp this? Is it possible to remove the metal connector within the socket or are these not removable.

    I'd love to be able to sort it out here rather than having to send back and waiting a few more days.

    Does anyone know Graeme's phone number? Perhaps calling him might be quicker.

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    Sorry for the faulty loom.

    There is a black wire that runs between the 2 black connectors and another black wire from the male black connector to the connector for the Llams module. Most likely the wire has pulled out of its crimp at one of the black connectors (it would be a 1st), but perhaps I missed soldering it to the module connector (would also be a 1st). I can post a replacement loom directly to you today if you PM your address.

    Edit: The black connectors are meant to be fully populated.
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    I assume the wire has come from the female connector. The cap can be released by prizing each end with a very small screw-driver then the socket retaining clip released thus allowing the socket to be removed from behind. I would not expect the wire to be reliably re-crimped but soldering it should be OK.

    I would prefer to send a replacement loom and for the faulty one to be returned when the replacement arrives. I don't have replacement sockets (I get the looms made in the UK in sets) so would hope to repair that one.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
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    Graeme,

    No problem, As discussed with you on the phone, I got it fixed. I extracted the metal crimp connector and re-crimped it. It seems to be quite well secured so I went with that. The guys at Davies Performance made sure I was putting it ion the right place over the phone. They had another one they could look at.

    I appreciate your replies and you time on the phone. The system seems to work well. The +50 height in offroad mode gives great clearance and will certainly give me more confort off-road.

    Thanks again. Yev

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    I FINALLY got time to install my kit last night. A lot of wires up under the dash, incredibly impressed with your crafty workmanship!!! Only issue I had doing it was trying to mount the black box, so I screwed it to the rubbery back wall lightly, it was my best fix cause the velcro wouldnt stay on anywhere. Love this and am looking forward to been offroad this coming weekend. Thanks!
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    Thanks Adzee.

    There's a horizonal spot low on the inside of the plastic panel behind the removable panel that is just big enough for the velcro and box, albeit a bit tricky to get it good enough.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
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    LLAMS Installation - Some Pluses and Minuses

    Having purchased LLAMS early in the year I finally got around to fitting it today. No problems with the kick panel and the steering column panel but the pedal cover would not come out - took the Torx screws out but the panel stayed connected to something up under the centre console - managed to pull it out but it is damaged in the area that goes under the centre console and will require a little plastic welding to fix.

    After a little while I was able to find the ECU connectors and pull them off and put in the new ones. All went well.

    I then went down to the local park to calibrate the system on the flat. This is what I managed to achieve measured at the top of the front wheel arch.

    When set to offroad height and -30 set it actually dropped 35mm
    With +30 set I only managed 25mm and on +50 only managed 45mm.

    With offroad height set I did not get any height rise when +30 was selected and when I selected +50 I only managed to get 20mm which was disappointing.

    I did not get any fault messages.

    I will go back down tomorrow when everything is cold and redo the calibration and see how we go then.

    Garry
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    I am now at the stage of mounting the controlling switch which I want to put on the flat section of the steering column case - on the left side near the bottom.

    I have found and taken out the two torx screws at the bottom of the casing up near the steering the wheel, but the bottom half of the casing still does come clear.

    So can someone who has mounted the switch there let me know how the bottom half of the steering column casing comes off.

    Thanks

    Garry
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    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
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    1957 Series 1 88"
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I will go back down tomorrow when everything is cold and redo the calibration and see how we go then.
    It could be useful if you were to measure the heights when at normal and off-road heights of 2 wheels on 1 side of the vehicle during the calibration process, ie after switching Llams to -20 whilst at normal height then again when at off-road height but before switching Llams to +50. However when the vehicle levels as a result of what it thinks is weight being added or removed, it seems to have a wide dead-band where near enough is good enough until the vehicle is driven. Driving a little distance with Llams at +50 is more likely to produce the off-road height that existed at calibration time.

    Whilst I fitted a driving light switch to my steering wheel cover, I cannot remember just how the cover was attached. I'll have a look later if no-one provides the clues.
    MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
    VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I have found and taken out the two torx screws at the bottom of the casing up near the steering the wheel, but the bottom half of the casing still does come clear.
    I found there is a third torx screw - removed it then just removed the bottom casing with brute force - the fun is getting it back in as the screw holes do not line up - only took 2 hours and bit of blood spillage to get it back in.
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    2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

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