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Thread: LLAMS electronic height controller for D3/D4/RRS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Hi Baz,
    Make sure all 4 ecu connectors are fully and evenly home, ie including ones not replaced with Llams connectors although the grey Llams one is often the culprit as its clip is not on centre so the plug may not be fully in at both ends. Also make sure the module loom connector is pushed right in and that the screws are even and not loose.

    Cycle the ignition - yes, turn it off then on again.

    Edit: Perhaps the switch cable being short is pulling on the loom connectors.
    Thanks Graeme, we'll try that, Kerry managed to clear the symbol by engaging the +30mm height in the Llams, this also allowed her to raise and lower the car, which it wouldn't with the Llams off and the fault symbol on.

    Baz.
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    I thought I'd give a big thank you to Graeme for sorting our little issue with the Llams system, Graeme personnally came out and met us at Tumbarumba and fixed the problem, thanks Graeme

    Baz.
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    You're welcome Baz - it was a nice change in scenery. Llams should have worked properly from the outset though hence the reason for the particular loom sockets now getting the modification as a preventative.
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    I was up in the Bridle Track area on the weekend and drove down to the junction of the Turon and Macquarie Rivers - the last few Km were driving through the rocky river bed and fording the river a few times.

    It was very rocky with large river boulders and LLAMS came into its own - while driving in at offroad height and LLAMS up on maximum, I only heard bashing under the car once - max water depth was probably to the top of the wheel.

    Coming back out I switched LLAMS off and stayed at offroad height - and there was constants banging of large rocks banging away underneath - with LLAMS back up to max no banging underneath.

    As forward speed was generally less than 10kph the ability of LLAMS to override speed restrictions did not come into it but the ability to raise to almost the equivalent super extended was a real benefit and prevented damage underneath.

    No pics of my car as I was driving.

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    Got to ditto that Gary. I spent 18 days in the Vic High Country before Christmas, with a total of over 50 water crossings. I typically ran on the LR off road height and clicked in Llams for the water crosssings or where large rock outcrops were on the track. Worked a treat.
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    I too was up the mountains over the weekend, LLAMS worked perfectly without any errors occuring.
    No banging either, I had more underdiff clearance than the Landcruisers running 35" tyres!
    I did scrape the rear bumper a couple of times coming down some really steep steps but it survived.
    I don't know if any of you guys get 4wd Action magazine but they had a DVD not long ago with a Mt Walker trip, the last climb to the top Roothy had to winch up I drove
    The guys where surprized how easily it drove most obstacles while lifting wheels most impressingly.



    This camera angle does not show the depth of the holes or the rocks the hidden side.
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    After having upset the connections on mine by roughly pulling on my disconnected brake controller cable when its connector had become entangled with the Llams loom and some other wiring, I followed someone's suggestion (sorry, I can't remember whose) of mounting the module on the suspension ecu itself using stick-on velcro. IMO its a perfect spot as there's plenty of room for the module and the looms are out of the way and can be wedged so that they don't bounce about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I followed someone's suggestion (sorry, I can't remember whose) of mounting the module on the suspension ecu itself using stick-on velcro.
    That would be me .
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    Llams may currently be incompatible with 2010+ RRS so best not to purchase a kit for such vehicles until the situation is clarified.

    Two different Llams kits of the most recent version produced identical right front and right rear height sensor faults immediately upon fitment. No faults remained once Llams was removed. The specific features of this RRS are being ascertained along with the suspension differences between the 2010 RRS and D4.

    An update will be posted as information becomes available.

    Edit: A much higher pwm signal frequency specification in the Llams software can almost eliminate an interpretted (but not real) fluctuation in sensor voltage by a 2010 D4 suspension ecu, in case the fluctuation is the cause of the faults in the 2010 RRS. More info when available, meanwhile the D4 tests the updated s/w.
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    The 2010 RRS uses a physically different suspension ecu to the 2010 D4, as indicated by the canbus wires being located in different connectors. Therefore in light of the particular suspension faults, it appears that Llams is not currently compatible with 2010+ RRS. If the particular RRS is fitted with ecu-controlled shocks (CVD - introduced in 2010 to the RRS) then Llams might be compatible, but unlikely as the CVD ecu is distinct from the suspension ecu yet the same suspension ecu is used regardless. The higher frequency pwm signal testing has been terminated but if the opportunity arises, research into the incompatibility will occur.
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