Thread: The fatal blow cycling wont recover from

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I don't think so. Watch every lead bike get scanned at the end of each event at TdF. I think you both need to remove your technology ignorant and jaded glasses (If we really must degrade ourselves, break the forum rules and play the man and not the subject), with this one, unlike drugs and the UCI & WADA's own flawed drug regulations the UCI do have the ability to easily detect mechanical doping.

The man who invented this says that it has been going on since 1998. It has been spoken about since 2010, and testing only started in 2015. The authorities are playing catch up, it took a Parisian newspaper to prove mechanical doping was being carried out. Mechanical doping is getting more sophisticated, much the same as drug doping has in the past. Yes, the authorities are testing now, but are are they keeping up with the technology? You claim the UCI have the ability to detect, and they indeed claim that. What method is used in Australia to detect mechanical doping? Could you please enlighten us .

Originally Posted by bee utey

Wow! The technology of lithium batteries must have done a quantum leap!! Next thing we'll be able to buy an electric Deafener capable of crossing the Simpson on a single charge!!!

BTW I'm idly watching Day 1 of Le Tour on SBS, I'm sure they're all running a little hidden bamix motor, they're sooo fast!!!

Not quite as simplistic as that.

Mechanical doping used in Strade Bianche and Coppi e Bartali, claims investigation | Cyclingnews.com

My apologies, it was a French TV show, and an Italian newspaper. I tracked it down, sorry about the English sub-titles, the translation has been murdered.

[ame]https://youtu.be/15kIyBhsX8o[/ame]

Originally Posted by bob10

The fatal blow cycling wont recover from

Sigh! The standard of journalism today! Surely it should be "The fatal blow from which cycling won't recover"?

No matter we will still record and watch each highlights show and enjoy the spectacle.

Originally Posted by trog

No matter we will still record and watch each highlights show and enjoy the spectacle.

Absolutely! Just about every man and his dog will stay up until 2 in the morning, watch TdF and turn up for work again with eyes half stuck shut.

Originally Posted by bob10

The man who invented this says that it has been going on since 1998. It has been spoken about since 2010, and testing only started in 2015. The authorities are playing catch up, it took a Parisian newspaper to prove mechanical doping was being carried out. Mechanical doping is getting more sophisticated, much the same as drug doping has in the past. Yes, the authorities are testing now, but are are they keeping up with the technology? You claim the UCI have the ability to detect, and they indeed claim that. What method is used in Australia to detect mechanical doping? Could you please enlighten us .

This blew up with some girl in the MTB racing or Cross-triathlon or something and it's publicity has been great - it's making people get off their asses and do something. This isn't comparable to drugs at all, they way they were testing for drugs like EPO and testosterone was flawed from the start as they were testing to a threshold, now they use a biological passport to allow for individual differences which threshold doesn't but even within Australia the governing bodies know how to administer via micro dosing etc in a way that the testing protocols doesn't pick up. Mechanical doping is a whole different ball game. There are no thresholds etc. It's either there or it isn't. It can be picked up via heat, scans, inspections and metal detection etc. Its also not just motors in the seat tube that work on the crank, there are ways also of making the rear wheel drive. But you speak about Australia and in my last 2 years of feedback to ASADA I slammed them. The reality is that nobody is being picked up because nobody is being tested and nothing is being checked. If you see their list of banned athletes it is pretty obvious that they're not testing, of all of the people that I compete with/against I don't know of a single person that has been tested from the winner through to last place - I suspect it is more like tip offs which they have to respond to. Many people in my sport believe that athletes who have tested positive mysteriously spend 12months out with an "injury" and I can't argue either way but I can see how this is possible when an athlete spends 12months "injured" and returns to racing with win's straight out of the box until the next "injury". In all of the events I have done, and this includes world championships I have never seen ASADA or WADA at an event. Actually, they were present at 1 Ironman event this year and they sat under a sunshade at the finishing complex for the day as I understand it. So in response to your question, my answer is that they do nothing, it's not actually a problem of not being able to do something - from what I can see, they just don't do anything. Even ASADA work on the principal of reducing incidences of all varieties of doping by fostering awareness and education.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Absolutely! Just about every man and his dog will stay up until 2 in the morning, watch TdF and turn up for work again with eyes half stuck shut.

Not this little black duck!