Thread: Should tourists climb Uluru?

Originally Posted by bob10

"Climbing Uluru" is a metaphor for aboriginal conscience.

I thought I asked you quite a reasonable, sensible, "non political" question?
I wouldn't mind an answer?
Pickles.

People, please keep in mind... Opinions are like your John Thomas...

It's ok to have one, but not always acceptable to get it out and wave it in somebody's face

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread)

I'm not waving anything in anyone's face.
Bob is the O.P.. I asked him (what I thought) a simple question in my post 189 with respect to Aboriginals' "interpretation" of "No" in respect to the signs in question. A fair question, I thought. If there is anything offensive in that particular question, then as a well known Australian once said, "Please Explain".
The question wasn't even really specific to this thread, but a reasonable informative answer may enlighten me, & maybe others, as to why such signs are worded this way.
It appears that Bob cannot understand the question, so is unable to answer. Consequently, if there's anyone else who would be willing to enlighten me, that would be good.
There is no malice or "ulterior motive" in my question, in fact, I would've thought that it did at least show, that I was at least giving this emotional subject some thought, but albeit, obviously not in the eyes of some.
Review my original question in post 189 if you wish, before you answer.
Pickles.

And my post wasn't aimed at you. It was a general comment

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I'm not waving anything in anyone's face.
Bob is the O.P.. I asked him (what I thought) a simple question in my post 189 with respect to Aboriginals' "interpretation" of "No" in respect to the signs in question. A fair question, I thought. If there is anything offensive in that particular question, then as a well known Australian once said, "Please Explain".
The question wasn't even really specific to this thread, but a reasonable informative answer may enlighten me, & maybe others, as to why such signs are worded this way.
It appears that Bob cannot understand the question, so is unable to answer. Consequently, if there's anyone else who would be willing to enlighten me, that would be good.
There is no malice or "ulterior motive" in my question, in fact, I would've thought that it did at least show, that I was at least giving this emotional subject some thought, but albeit, obviously not in the eyes of some.
Review my original question in post 189 if you wish, before you answer.
Pickles.

I read your post and understood as you say in your original post and even now i still understand it
I get the feeling that some here have a alternative motive so will just dance around in circles

Originally Posted by Tombie

People, please keep in mind... Opinions are like your John Thomas...

It appears some opinions are bigger than others ....

It's a rock, get over it.

And the only way to do that, is to climb it.

But to answer the OP's question:
If you want to, but it shouldn't be compulsory.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I'm not waving anything in anyone's face.
Bob is the O.P.. I asked him (what I thought) a simple question in my post 189 with respect to Aboriginals' "interpretation" of "No" in respect to the signs in question. A fair question, I thought. If there is anything offensive in that particular question, then as a well known Australian once said, "Please Explain".
The question wasn't even really specific to this thread, but a reasonable informative answer may enlighten me, & maybe others, as to why such signs are worded this way.
It appears that Bob cannot understand the question, so is unable to answer. Consequently, if there's anyone else who would be willing to enlighten me, that would be good.
There is no malice or "ulterior motive" in my question, in fact, I would've thought that it did at least show, that I was at least giving this emotional subject some thought, but albeit, obviously not in the eyes of some.
Review my original question in post 189 if you wish, before you answer.
Pickles.

Because in some cultures its considered rude to state a flat out 'No' and instead people drop hints and hope the listener is cluey enough about polite manners in other cultures to get the hint and not ask again. This is very common in Asian and Pacific Islander cultures.

Unfortunately, I have found that many Aussies and Yanks, who come from a different, individualistic, American-influenced culture, simply don't 'get' it and blunder along, not even realising they are offending others.

The Uluru signs are a polite way of asking visitors to respect the wishes of the locals. Obviously, many visitors either don't 'get' the hint or are too self-centred to care about the wishes of others.

Personally, I think the best answer would be to simply ban climbing altogether. That could be justified on the safety grounds of the custodians having a duty of care to prevent more deaths, as well as on cultural grounds. Many NPs have closed areas.

Some people would no doubt be outraged, but so what? Those people obviously don't care about the feelings of others, so why should we care about their feelings?

Actions have consequences - harsh reality. If its 'just a rock', then why care about not being able to climb it? Take the tour, buy the DVD or fly a drone over it, but get over it. My opinion.

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