Should tourists climb Uluru?

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

...it's also political and should be deleted for that reason also.

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Nope, no political either.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Yes it is. 'I'm not racist, but...' doesn't cut it.

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Beside you, I don't recall anyone saying that.

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Originally Posted by Bytemrk

MRLandy, I'm not sure specifically where you see a racist comment - please feel free to report the specific post as none of the Moderation team would support racism.

However, opinions are a different thing, this a very divisive topic, and opinions seem to polarise at opposite ends. There are definitely opinions here that I do not agree with, however i totally support the right of others to have their opinion.

Right now it is still legal to climb the rock - so some will make a choice to do that. Others will not agree with that decision.... but it's still legally OK while the climb is open to the public. Even if it's not Morally OK by your standards.

This thread while not about religion..... is almost bordering on that area.

Lets all try and keep the discussion civil please.

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Bytemrk, This thread is absolutely about religion. Uluru is the equivalent of a cathedral or a mosque. It is highly disrespectful towards Anangu people. It's also blatantly political. Climbing Uluru is the most blatant expression of contemporary colonialism possible.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Such blatant disrespect towards another cultures beliefs is racist.

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Disrespecting a belief is not racist.

Racism is the belief a Race is inferior based on some characteristic.

This topic is about opinion (which you are also free to present in a civil manner).

Racism is still prolific in this world, and plenty of races are equally as racist towards others.

Just for the record, there are two theories about the rock's formation, one based on facts, one not. Why should the non factual version get more respect?

https://www.ayersrockresort.com.au/u...onment/geology

It's not about religion.. or politics.. or racism...

It's about people having different views on an emotive. divisive subject...

People do have the right to make the choice...even if you or I don't agree with the choice.

The Anangu people are part of the board of management that controls the park.

Yes they ask people not to climb it.... But the climb is still open - they have not closed it , so they still give people a choice.

Personally I chose to walk around it, visit the valleys and caves , see the rock paintings and learn some of their Tjukurpa stories,but not all visitors will. They know that as well as I do.

This is illustrative of clear disrespect for Anangu religious beliefs. Anangu people want the climb closed. National Parks have power of veto. With respect, I suggest you look a bit further into it.

So if I started a thread about whether we should trample all over a mosque, would that be a problem?

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

So if I started a thread about whether we should trample all over a mosque, would that be a problem?

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That would be sure to blow up into an explosive argument..

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

I've never read a bigger load of disrespectful, ignorant, bogun bull

Climing Uluru is one of the most sacrilegious, disrespectful things you can do on the planet.

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If you'd like I'm pretty sure I can come up with some weapons grade disrespectful acts to broaden your horizons for comparative examples and reasons.

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Originally Posted by MrLandy

Well weeds, if it's not deleted, I'm out. No room for racism in my world.

My post is nowhere near as offensive as the majority of those above.

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whats that expression, something about racists living in small closed worlds?

Now I'm not a racist and not for any reason of philanthropy, I'm better than you, honor or any of that crap its a far simpler reason. I'm just too lazy but I can't help but notice that so far you're about the only one whose bringing religion or racism to this thread and you're slinging what I'd consider to be anti religious semantics pretty liberally.

IF you think that walking over a naturally evolved geographic formation is in some way sacrilegious then you're welcome to go eye for eye, when I go walk over it again then you, on behalf of the people for whom you claim I am disrespecting are welcome to walk over the pinnacle object of my religion and culture.

till then if discussion of opinion is something you're willing to label as racism and make claims that its enough to make you bail out as theres no room for it in your world then do the Mods a favor and save them the effort

to paraphras an old war movie scene as the luey is handed the revolver and shown the door to the office.
"for the good of the forum old chap"

Y'all have a fantastic evening and thanks for the entertainment.

This vicious gleeful trampling of another cultures religious beliefs is revolting. I'm out.

Wow. We got to page 6 and had a huge variety of opinions and 1 dummy spit... 😮
Me personally i would respect the wishes of the traditional owners for a host of reasons.
A walking tour with some education and insight i would be happy to do.
Respect is the key word here. Whether you personally agree or not surely won't affect your life forever more if you don't climb it?
I like the suggestion of a flight over the area incl Katja Juta . Much better views too.

Be nice to one another 😊

Jc