Hoist advice

**steveG** · 18th March 2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by rar110

Thanks again.

Is concrete grey the colour of choice, and is grit for grip a good idea?

Definitely no grit.
One of the big benifits of painting is it makes cleanup so easy.
Oil spill - wipe it up. Dirt and dust - use a broom.
If you use grit it it would be a PITA to clean up.

The other benefit of paint is that if you do end up having to roll around under a vehicle for some reason - it’s sooo much easier to slide around on smooth paint.

I’ve just got a generic industrial polyurethane concrete paint.
I don’t find it slippery at all, although if you left a pool of oil and came sprinting into the shed I’m sure it would be pretty slick.
I don’t move that fast nowadays…

I picked up my 3.7T tiff lift 2 post clear floor hoist for $1700 used.
It’s 3 phase, but I just run it with a cheap Chinese VFD that does 1ph 230v input, and 3 phase 400v output to the motor. About $200 from AliExpress.
Son in law went the other way and replaced the 3 phase hydraulic pack with a single phase one.
About $500 delivered from eBay.

Steve

**DoubleChevron** · 22nd March 2023, 11:28 AM

I purchased an old 4post hoist last year .... you would categorise as "scrap metal"

Its bloody fantastic. I wanted a 4post as the cement slab is garbage and not to be trusted. Its the best thing since sliced bread.

I couldn't understand how it worked, until it was together. Its a "wheels free" hoist. So the "yellow" frame can be left behind to support the car.

You can buy 240volt single phase power units/pumps with built in "everythign" required to run the hydraulic rams from $270 delivered through Vevo.

**Tins** · 22nd March 2023, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by oka374

John you are welcome anytime but shed rules are that that my vehicle goes back in each night unless an extended stay for yours has been negotiated.
Our previous house had a pit so that rule was established as my son and his mates used it for all sorts of projects and vehicles.

Thanks, Peter, but I was hoping for #374 as a loan vehicle

**oka374** · 23rd March 2023, 08:13 AM

Ha ha, we're at Wompinni, 15 Oka's here so far

**rar110** · 30th April 2023, 06:21 AM

The shed is finally up, with two projects finally under cover.

Of course it’s too small. But heaps better than before.

Next is a tank, power, and a hoist. Hopefully.

**Xtreme** · 30th April 2023, 08:00 AM

Nice shed....... how long do you expect it to stay tidy once you get active on those projects?

**goingbush** · 30th April 2023, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I purchased an old 4post hoist last year .... you would categorise as "scrap metal"

Its bloody fantastic. I wanted a 4post as the cement slab is garbage and not to be trusted. Its the best thing since sliced bread.

I couldn't understand how it worked, until it was together. Its a "wheels free" hoist. So the "yellow" frame can be left behind to support the car.

You can buy 240volt single phase power units/pumps with built in "everythign" required to run the hydraulic rams from $270 delivered through Vevo.

Thats great, never knew they existed, would suit my needs. Bradbury seem to be the only mob doing these. Given enough head room would you be happy enough to leave a car stored on it & park another car underneath ?

**TonyC** · 30th April 2023, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I purchased an old 4post hoist last year .... you would categorise as "scrap metal"

Its bloody fantastic. I wanted a 4post as the cement slab is garbage and not to be trusted. Its the best thing since sliced bread

I couldn't understand how it worked, until it was together. Its a "wheels free" hoist. So the "yellow" frame can be left behind to support the car.

You can buy 240volt single phase power units/pumps with built in "everythign" required to run the hydraulic rams from $270 delivered through Vevo.

Hi Shane,

When you use it wheel free mode, the car sits on the for/aft yellow beams, yes?

On my Defender the axles are somewhat lower than the chassis rails.

1) So how high are the pads that sit on the yellow beam, that the car sits on?

2) Could you remove a beam axle from a Landy, or would it be stuck above the yellow beams and behind the posts?

3) Can you raise or lower car on the yellow rails with the wheel ramps down? Or do the yellow beams only move with wheel ramps, then lock in place?

4) How much does the drive on ramps and wheel ramps get in the way/trip you up when working wheel free?

Thanks

Tony

**rar110** · 1st May 2023, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I purchased an old 4post hoist last year .... you would categorise as "scrap metal"

Its bloody fantastic. I wanted a 4post as the cement slab is garbage and not to be trusted. Its the best thing since sliced bread.

I couldn't understand how it worked, until it was together. Its a "wheels free" hoist. So the "yellow" frame can be left behind to support the car.

You can buy 240volt single phase power units/pumps with built in "everythign" required to run the hydraulic rams from $270 delivered through Vevo.

Thanks Shane.

Does it have the option of lifting with the wheels on the ramp and yellow rails removed? Or do the yellow rails stay on the hoist and you just push them both to one side? Thanks

**DoubleChevron** · 5th May 2023, 09:09 AM

Sorry for the delayed reply. I didn't see htis. I think my old hoist is from the 70's .... it'll be bloody ancient.

H4543 4 Post Wheel Free Hoist 5t | Molnar Hoists

they are still sold new by molner. I imagine they would be VERY expensive new as they are a known commercial brand. The old one I have has no attachment points on the wheels free beams, though I'm sure the current models will have jacks that slide along the wheels free beams to allow you to lift from the body (mine will lift from the axles on a 4wd as they are the lowest point by far).

the wheels free beams just sit on the cross bars and can be readily lifted away (they are massively heavy Ibeams running on small wheels). You can just roll them to the sides of the hoist if you don't want them in the way. If you look at the new hoist linked the wheels free beams sit a lot lower. On mine they are in the way for very low cars ( ie: all of my hydraulic citroens). So I have thrown some garden sleepers on it as shown.

Its so useful I spent quite a bit of time backing my car trailer upto it and dragging a parts car onto the hoist so I could work on it. There is nothing that isn't easier once you have access to a car hoist. That car shown there has a 124" wheel base (longer than a big old land yatch chev impala) and maybe 5mm of ground clearance. So this makes getting under it a breeze. You can't even get them onto 2 post hoists and you can't get the arms underneath.

I just have a bunch of 2" x 4" wood offcuts here I place on the wheels free beams to pickup whatever lift location I want to use under the car.

Yes, you could definatley use it as a parking hoist. Both the wheels free mechanism and the ramps themselves have heavy duty locks. Its would be an expensive way of getting a parking hoist though

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