Hoist advice

**DoubleChevron** · 5th May 2023, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by TonyC

Hi Shane,

When you use it wheel free mode, the car sits on the for/aft yellow beams, yes?

On my Defender the axles are somewhat lower than the chassis rails.

1) So how high are the pads that sit on the yellow beam, that the car sits on?

2) Could you remove a beam axle from a Landy, or would it be stuck above the yellow beams and behind the posts?

3) Can you raise or lower car on the yellow rails with the wheel ramps down? Or do the yellow beams only move with wheel ramps, then lock in place?

4) How much does the drive on ramps and wheel ramps get in the way/trip you up when working wheel free?

Thanks

Tony

How it works is the black part are a standard 4 post hoist. They carry the yellow parts with them. You can slide the yellow beams anywhere along the cross beams.

1) mines an early one... probably from the 70's with just Ibeams, I think the later ones have sliding jacks that run down the Ibeams
2) It depends if there is "Ibeam" jacks/rises to allow you to support the car from its body (rather than the axles). I imagine the jacking beams would be in the way, so you would just roll them to the sides. in this case a normal 4poster rolling jack would be better.
3) No, once they are locked in, they stay put. I lower the ramps to a comfortable height to be a work bench/seat once the car is supported.
4) Not at all that I have noticed. It would probably suck if you were used to a clear floor under a 2 post hoist. If you need a clear floor, just drop the ramps down until the are no longer holding supporting the wheels, and leave them up high out of the way

If you're removing bodies from chassis and axles from chassis, I'm guessing nothing is going to beat a 2post hoist!

**rar110** · 7th May 2023, 09:20 AM

Thanks Shane, much appreciated.

Yes I’ve seen them on the Molnar page.

It’s a tough choice. The 4 post Chinese options look ok and only a little more expensive than 2 post if you add two stabiliser stands to the 2 post cost.

**Tins** · 7th May 2023, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

It’s a tough choice.

It is. Thing to decide is what it will be used for the most, and what else you might need the space for. Two posters can do more everyday stuff, and don't take up the room, especially with the arms raised. Four posters can do very specific things that a two poster can't, but that would probably be less often. And the bloody things are in the way ALL the time. Ideally it would be great to have both, but If I had to choose one, and the budget was the same, I'd pick the two poster.

**DoubleChevron** · 7th May 2023, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tins

It is. Thing to decide is what it will be used for the most, and what else you might need the space for. Two posters can do more everyday stuff, and don't take up the room, especially with the arms raised. Four posters can do very specific things that a two poster can't, but that would probably be less often. And the bloody things are in the way ALL the time. Ideally it would be great to have both, but If I had to choose one, and the budget was the same, I'd pick the two poster.

I specifically looked only for a 4poster due to the hydraulic suspension cars I own. You need a safe way to get under them and have them supported by the wheels. I'm guessing anyone in the trade will want both ..... Or if only one, it would have to be a 2poster.

You need a *really* good floor for a 2poster ( I'd never put one in my shed .... no way!).

They are that cheap, these days, you could get them both old and 2nd hand and fit a 240volt motor to them.

**rar110** · 10th May 2023, 06:40 PM

Thanks Tins and Shane.

The concreter put in extra thickness specifically for a two post hoist in the middle bay. So it’s certainly set up for that option.

**cjc_td5** · 10th May 2023, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

Thanks Shane, much appreciated.

Yes I’ve seen them on the Molnar page.

It’s a tough choice. The 4 post Chinese options look ok and only a little more expensive than 2 post if you add two stabiliser stands to the 2 post cost.

You can pick up a used Molnar hoist for $3k. I'd pick one of those over a new chinese hoist. The Molnars are very well made and all parts are available from Molnar in Adelaide.

**DoubleChevron** · 10th May 2023, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by cjc_td5

You can pick up a used Molnar hoist for $3k. I'd pick one of those over a new chinese hoist. The Molnars are very well made and all parts are available from Molnar in Adelaide.

especially if you can convert them to 240 for $270 (inc delivery) with a vevo pump system.

**DoubleChevron** · 15th May 2023, 06:21 PM

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molner 4poster with two rolling jacks for $2k. You'd just throw one of those vevor 240 pumps on it if you don't have 3phase

**cjc_td5** · 16th May 2023, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

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molner 4poster with two rolling jacks for $2k. You'd just throw one of those vevor 240 pumps on it if you don't have 3phase

That's a good buy. I paid $3K for one a 4 poat hoist on a pallet, and sold the jacking beams for $1k each, so it owes me less than $1k now. My hoist is being converted to a boat lift in a shed, so the beams were not needed.

**Warb** · 18th May 2023, 08:45 AM

Does anyone know if a 2 post hoist can be used with a SWB Series (88" or 86")? The rear spring brackets don't seem very far behind the mid point of the vehicle which would seem to make locating the rear arms far enough behind the C.O.G. (which I'm guessing is a short distance in front of the mid-point) a bit tricky. And that's if it's possible to swing the arms between the tyres anyway!

Any experience? Is a 4 post with jacking beams a better option for Series LR's?

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