Thread: Landrover wheels on your camper

Originally posted by CraigE
Martins trailer parts in Perth will drill them for any vehicle if they have a template or if they dont if you can supply a wheel will mark them and drill. It is pretty basic to get a blank hub and have it drilled. While they do supply stubs they are generally for steel wheel nut not both steel and alloy. I would supply them with the stubs and get them to drill and press them in. Most decent trailer part suppliers should be able to do this.

This is true you would think but i had a bugger of a time getting it done and at a fair price, the first place i tried would do it but would not put the DII studs in would only put what they normally put in all the other hubs, which is fine if you have a Land cruiser or Patrol or any other jap 4WD.

I finally found a place in Melbourne to do the hubs for $360.

The wheels were another story, i finally settled for alloys because all the places that make rims for you wanted $250 a rim, what really pi$$ed me off was if i took a blank rim in and i wanted it drilled to suit a Cruiser it was $70 a rim, how do i know, some may know that i go driving with a mate that has a cruiser (treebruiser) Mick and he was doing the same as me getting rims made for his camper and thats what he was quoted, so Mick said go and see him he's cheap, yeah if you own a jap 4WD, MY FIRST QUOTE WAS $75 until i told him what they were for, oh he said hang on this might be differant, next quote was $220

Even Landy places want $200 to $270 for steel rims

I think it's easier if you have a Defender or series 1 Disco, but for the DII it's a nightmare unless it's done while the camper is being manufactured.

Baz.

<span style="color:blue">there is a trailer place in or around nowra that has hubs for landies....

this was posted here some time ago.....

they are on the main road (princes highway) think....</span>

Thats pretty ordinary. I think I paid about $120 for two new hubs drilled to LR parttern with studs and bearings. I am going to change them to LR studs to take alloy and steel nut (I rethreaded some alloy nuts for the time being) which is not hard I will get the stud base size and take it to the workshop and get one of the fitter to drill them to the larger size, 10 minutes work. You do need an industrial drill press to do this however. Most machine shops should have one. As for the blanks it should not be that hard to get and existing one and use that as a template for marking or get and old one and use as adrilling template. I know that the price would not have changed if I supplied my own studs as the studs are supplied as a kit. It is just people being uninformed or to lazy to do it for you. I would be questioning their trade qualifications if they can not drill 5 holes for you. Best bet is try a fitting and maching shop.

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">there is a trailer place in or around nowra that has hubs for landies....

this was posted here some time ago.....

they are on the main road (princes highway) think....</span>

I bet they don't do the DII, getting hubs for a Disco 1 or Defender is easy, but the DII is a whole lot harder.

Every time i rang a place that stocked hubs for Landies i got,

"yeah got heaps of Landy hubs in stock just come down",

i have a series 2 Disco,

"yeah got them too",

and every time i went down they were series 1 hubs or Defender,

"oh but aren't they the same"

ahhhhhhhhhhh NO

Series 2 Disco stud pattern is the same as P38A Rangie, BMW X5 with 14mm stud

Series 1 Disco is the older stud pattern, with a 16mm stud, i think the same as the Defenders.

You can't buy hubs for a DII or P38A rangie off the shelf.

I believe that we are talking trailer hubs and as such the hub is not hugely important. A standard blank hub will suffice with bearings to suit the axle. Generally I have used the standard blanks with holden or ford bearings. This enables easy and quick replacement of bearings anywhere in Australia. Obviously these hubs can only be used for trailers only and not for vehicles. The standard trailer blank hub is available from any trailer parts place. Just do not get them pre drilled. All you need then is a template to get the holes drilled. I think most people are missing the point that you do not need LR hubs for a trailer at all. As i said the stud are the downfall and you are better off using LR studs off a vehicle (not expensive). The same applies for braked trailers just get the brake assembly with a blank hub and have them drill. It seems to be getting overcomplicated just to dril 10 holes. I have spoken to a couple of machine shops that said it would be an easy task if a template (hub or wheel could be supplied).

Originally posted by CraigE
I believe that we are talking trailer hubs and as such the hub is not hugely important. A standard blank hub will suffice with bearings to suit the axle. Generally I have used the standard blanks with holden or ford bearings. This enables easy and quick replacement of bearings anywhere in Australia. Obviously these hubs can only be used for trailers only and not for vehicles. The standard trailer blank hub is available from any trailer parts place. Just do not get them pre drilled. All you need then is a template to get the holes drilled. I think most people are missing the point that you do not need LR hubs for a trailer at all. As i said the stud are the downfall and you are better off using LR studs off a vehicle (not expensive). The same applies for braked trailers just get the brake assembly with a blank hub and have them drill. It seems to be getting overcomplicated just to dril 10 holes. I have spoken to a couple of machine shops that said it would be an easy task if a template (hub or wheel could be supplied).

CraigE this is what i did the hubs i got made were a standard drum brake trailer hub with Ford bearings, that was drilled with the DII stud pattern and DII studs put in.

They are not LR hubs.

Also the rims, my quote was for blank after market 4wd rims drilled to a DII stud pattern, nothing differant to any other after market 4wd rim except the stud pattern.

Even Graeme Cooper has rims made for the DII and his price is the dearest at $270.

I could not understand it myself that drilling a rim or brake hub with the DII stud pattern would be so hard, and i can tell you i rang alot of trailer places, as i said Disco 1 and Defender you can buy off the shelf but not the DII.

Baz.

Just to add a bit of info on Landrover wheel studs to this thread.
1. All Landrovers up to P38/D2 (Series 1,2,3, RRC) had the same stud pattern, but with a variety of wheel types, mostly interchangeable except that some RR wheels won't fit over the protruding Series or early 110 hubs and some alloys won't fit with drum brakes. (Also load carrying problems in some cases e.g. Disco1 wheels on a 110)
2. All Series Landrovers up to very late 2a used 7/16 BSF studs screwed into the hub. These changed to the same type pressed in then, still S2a, to 16mm pressed in, which continued to the current Defender, the same thread used in RR and D1.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> could not understand it myself that drilling a rim or brake hub with the DII stud pattern would be so hard, and i can tell you i rang alot of trailer places, as i said Disco 1 and Defender you can buy off the shelf but not the DII.
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Redback, I do sympathise with you guys. As soon as you mention LR to some people they are lost or reluctant to even look at them. The blank trailer hubs are easy and cheap to get, drilling provided you can get access to an industrial drill press is easy, the studs themselves should also be fairly easy to get www.Landrovers.com.au have them I think and they are not that dear. Getting actual vehicle hubs may be harder and a lot more expensive.
Maybe we should get a group of people together and approach a major trailer company (Sydney, Melb or Perth) and ask them to make a template jig up for the D2 with 14mm drill holes to accept actual LR studs. Surely if we got a few D2 owners interested they would be keen.