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    I Guess it's going to create a little havoc when cars of the future have brake controllers built in to the vehicles stability controller and the trailer they are towing has its own brake controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Maybe they did in the old days but now they use 3 axis accelerometer.
    You can call it what you like, but in the industry it is still known as a pendulum.

    This mob here are one of the most recognized caravan repairers/part sales in Melb. Have a read.

    http://hardingscaravans.com.au/carav...FQOUvQodTmcHRA
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    Smile

    Probably because the market for brake controllers are old blokes like my retiring dad. He's not have a clue what a MEMS gyro was and nobody would have a chance in hell of explaining it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Robert Bosch LLC. - Media Center

    For this to work, the vehicle stability controller needs control over the trailer brakes which therefore means it must control the trailer brakes at other times as well.

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    My interpretation of that description was that TSC just works via the tow vehicle, regardless of whether the trailer even has brakes. I know there are caravans in particular now coming out with stability control of their own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    My interpretation of that description was that TSC just works via the tow vehicle, regardless of whether the trailer even has brakes. I know there are caravans in particular now coming out with stability control of their own...

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    Yeah. You are right. I read it wrong. It says through brake intervention of the towING vehicle. Not brake intervention of the towed vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    You can call it what you like, but in the industry it is still known as a pendulum.

    This mob here are one of the most recognized caravan repairers/part sales in Melb. Have a read.

    http://hardingscaravans.com.au/carav...FQOUvQodTmcHRA
    Yep. Read it. I still just think it's Dumbed down. Take the lid of a Teksona brake controller and you are not going to find an arm with a ball on the bottom that swings back and forwarth when you accelerate and brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Take the lid of a Teksona brake controller and you are not going to find an arm with a ball on the bottom that swings back and forwarth when you accelerate and brake.
    Probably not. My argument though is what the terminology is. Rightly or wrongly, it is commonly known as a pendulum type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    Probably not. My argument though is what the terminology is. Rightly or wrongly, it is commonly known as a pendulum type.
    I don't think we should promote incorrect terminology. Teksonsha refer to them as Proportional. The other type is time delay.

    Explaining to a less technical person and saying they work like a pendulum is fine but I would shy away from a company that refers to them as a pendulum type. It gives me the impression they don't understand or know how what they are selling actually works.

    On another note. I've read that trailer mounted electric tralier brake controllers are the standard in the UK but vehicle mounting is the standard for the US and obviously it seems the same here in Australia.

    I found it unusual the popularity of the flat 7 pin trailer plug we have only here in Australia. We have a relativly small population in comparison to the rest of the world. I was suprised we didn't addopt whatever another country used. I think they are pretty rubbish. I tried to find a better made one but there are one 2 manufacturers.

    The UK have a bayonet style round plug that I think is far better. It seals properly becasue it's round it can have round "O" rings and the whole fitting screw together and presses down tight on the "O" ring. The bayonet fitting also pushes the fitting together tight on another "O" ring. The worst thing was that all my family have the flat 7 pin plugs on their vehicles so it made sense to have the same fitting on my trailer. So now I have to use an adaptor from the well made, sealing UK round connector to an inferior Aussie flat 7 pin plug.

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    I don't like the idea of drawbar mounted controllers. You see the biggest bonus of electric brakes is if I feel the towed vehicle starting to sway ..... I can reach down and throw some anchors out manually ..... While accelerating the tow vehicle

    I'm about to buy a Primus IQ to fit to the old Rangie .. .unless anyone knows of a reason to avoid them. There a modern progressive controller and are only $120 bucks with a full wiring kit on fleabay.

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    Trailer brake education

    Shane,
    Sorry I missed this , I have a Primus installed in my 93 Vogue manual and I reckon we're not that far apart in Ballarat. Drop in and see how well it works if you want. Pm me

    Justin

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