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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    And thats exactly it Gav & Shane! You guys have nailed it...

    **** poor design is the common cause of instability and these modern van builders really need to be held accountable!

    A one size/design fits all approach - doesn't work either - A tug is not just a tug - and people need to take into account what their intended tow vehicle is when working through the appropriate choice of van.

    And with modern design, modelling and composites - I believe its about time van design and weight are reduced to suitable levels - 3500kg is a lot of cases is way beyond many vehicles (and operators) level of capability.
    I guess that towing a caravan that the weight it is not over the 85% of the towing vehicle loaded weight is a good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    Shane, you appreciate French vehicles, get one of this and kiss goodbye the towing vehicle.
    I love to see the grey nomads with them in the Bruce hwy

    Caravan with Renault 1.4 turbo engine
    I've always wanted a little Renault 5 turbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    I guess that towing a caravan that the weight it is not over the 85% of the towing vehicle loaded weight is a good start.
    It's mostly the layout of the caravan too. Front kitchen and storage hatches, rear lift up bed and storage hatches allows all the weight to be concentrate right at the ends. So you have the kitchen, fridge, gas bottles, front boot and god knows what else bolted to the drawbar, and a big lift up bed up the back edge that all the big heavy stuff can be stored under, two massive heavy spare wheels swinging off the very rear edge of the caravan, and a rear boot.... Insanity.

    The poms dont' even fit front or rear boots any longer for fear of them being loaded with anything heavy. My parents Bailey has the gas bottles mounted over the axle (so is under the sink in the kitchen area). everything that is a hefty weight that can be moved, they have located over the axle. even the spare wheel is under there.

    just look at the quality of all the fittings (turn the sound off)

    [ame]https://youtu.be/VJzrb140Fkc[/ame]

    Single axle ... about 20foot long, full sized ensuite, twin gas bottles (mounted under the sink if you look), big payload (the aussie sold ones have upgraded ALKO chassis and suspension units).

    The trouble with importing these 'vans like my brother did is they have bugger all payload (about 250kg from memory) and dont' have the upgraded heavy duty ALKO chassis/suspension units of the locally sold caravans. So you add a water tank (100kg), air conditioner ( 60kg ), roll out awning (50kg) ........ How is your payload looking now ??

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    I was looking at the Unicorn coroba video and it is very impressive.
    Regarding the chassis on the UK vans , the Germans are using the same chassis and some of the manufacturer back up their vans for up to 10 years including water leaking,
    IMO these vans are so well deigned inside that soon will be used as a granny flat in many parts of Australia.
    Just to think that nursing homes are asking $300000 deposit or more plus 80% of the age pension the old timers will be better of paying $200 a week in a caravan park or in some relatives back yard and living in a caravan like these.
    That it is what happens in USA now even with middle age people that losts their job and in many cases their home.

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    Stability Control

    I have an 09 Disc 3 towing 2600kg 22 ft tandem axle van. Before looking at forking out big bucks for an ESC I would first look at the tyres. Are they the right ones for what you want to do. The dealers stick on ones that are about 70/30 but for most of us. Some are worse than useless in the wet and are often not inflated to the right psi. As others have stated the correct balance and fit out are the basics to start with but most of us just kick the tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forwari View Post
    I have an 09 Disc 3 towing 2600kg 22 ft tandem axle van. Before looking at forking out big bucks for an ESC I would first look at the tyres. Are they the right ones for what you want to do. The dealers stick on ones that are about 70/30 but for most of us. Some are worse than useless in the wet and are often not inflated to the right psi. As others have stated the correct balance and fit out are the basics to start with but most of us just kick the tyres.
    Is that the loaded weight? The 22.5' 'van I have here reckons it's only 1600kg on the compliance plate.

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    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
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    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    Had it retro fitted to our van
    Not a big issue just had to "explain" a few facts regarding electrical connections to the installer (wanted to put ANOTHER Anderson plug on the Disco)
    Van has simplicity suspension with Alko drum brakes (it will work with other brands)
    Minor hiccup at the beginning, they had to recalibrate it, but all good now and have had it operate once when a large semi went past the other way at HIGH speed it corrected before I could even think about it

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