Reply With QuoteInc, have we lost a couple of posts this morning, my reply is missing along with the reply I quoted.
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any insurance battles after incidents are based on the manufacturers recommended weights / specs as well and there are some odd specs when you go looking, i am told.
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Swaggie
Inc, have we lost a couple of posts this morning, my reply is missing along with the reply I quoted.
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garrycols?
i can see them....
2007 Discovery 3 SE7 TDV6 2.7
2012 SZ Territory TX 2.7 TDCi
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
"If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
“What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
"We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” – Ayn Rand
"The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius
Swaggie
I think we can acknowledge there is no ADR covering tow ball weights, I assume everybody asking for a reference have googled the hell out of it and there is no reference.
Pretty sure all late car the manufacturer states max towing weight and in most cases max tow ball weight....this is what the police/inspectors will be checking and booking you on....the only reference required is user handbook in most cases (modern/late model cars).
Ultimately, tow ball is either
- the max. set by manufacturer or
- the difference between the weight of your car and your GVM......in many cases will reduce your allowed towball weight
Oh than there is rear axle weights which only a very few would actually check.
The other day I was running a 20% tow ball weight.....based on the trailer weight....Apparently you need brakes for trailers/load over 750kg
Swaggie
Yeah, I cannot see them in tapatalk...weirdOriginally Posted by incisor
Swaggie
Yep. You're repeating yourself.I think we can acknowledge there is no ADR covering tow ball weights, I assume everybody asking for a reference have googled the hell out of it and there is no reference.
Pretty sure all late car the manufacturer states max towing weight and in most cases max tow ball weight....this is what the police/inspectors will be checking and booking you on....the only reference required is user handbook in most cases (modern/late model cars).
Ultimately, tow ball is either
- the max. set by manufacturer or
- the difference between the weight of your car and your GVM......in many cases will reduce your allowed towball weight
Oh than there is rear axle weights which only a very few would actually check.
The other day I was running a 20% tow ball weight.....based on the trailer weight....Apparently you need brakes for trailers/load over 750kg
Can you see this?
Wizard
Thanks for the complment , not sure about extensive knowledge on the subject , but i do know that a Prime Mover can not be used in the same vain to support the towing capabilities of a Car , as far as articals on the subject i will leave that up to you to sort out yourself .
Wizard
SubscriberI know for a fact, from personal experience, that having a dog trailer that is markedly heavier than the lead trailer, makes for quite an exciting time trying to pull up quickly! And that is in vehicle combinations approved for a GCM in excess of 120 tonnes.
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Swaggie
Sadly, I cannot find any articles be reputable authors.
I can, however, find information on various vehicles. Using the D max, as an example, it is rated by the manufacturer to tow 3.5t and yet the vehicle itself weighs half that.
https://www.isuzuute.com.au/media/do...tion_Sheet.pdf
Master
SupporterThe trouble with rated towing capacities is that at that total with say the "10%" TB mass (even if we do not agree that is correct), the D max can hardly have any payload. This is a spreadsheet that i did some time ago for interested people. Extract of a D Max
Comparison of some popular tow vehicles Make/Model Isuzu D-MAX LS-U 3ltr Auto Max towing rating 3,500 Kg 3,500 Kg TARE 1,945 Kg Plus TBW 350 Kg Fuel 76 Kg 2 Passengers 150 Kg bullbar 100 Kg Mimimum GVM 2,621 Kg GVM 2,950 Kg Mandated GCM 5,950 Kg remaining payload 329 Kg GCM = Minimum GVM + Van weight result -171 Kg
So with a bull bar, fuel and 2 passengers its overloaded by 171Kg!!
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