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    It’s not that difficult

    Small trailers (up to 4500kg ATM) are governed under a VSB1

    Unlike vehicle registration standards which can vary on year of production, these standards are legislated for ALL trailers

    Easy enough to search the standards but I’ll copy in the relevant details at bottom

    Take home points re safety chains

    Minimum of one safety chain up to 2.5T ATM that meets the Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994. It must comply but doesn’t “have” to be stamped as such - but you’ll have to prove it complies.

    2.5T to 3.5T two safety chains each meeting standard or designation of 3500kg

    Shackles also have to meet thes requirements but in the VSB there is no reference to them being rated or standardised BUT how do you know their strength without a rating. Note that there needs to be no deformation or bending up to this load limit.

    1.5x9.8xATM

    So let’s say an ATM of 1995kg (just under breakaway brake requirements) shackles and chain must NOT deform with a load of 29,400N

    This does not take into account WLL or safety factors but since lifting gear uses a 6x WLL factor


    A simple 0.5T “rated” WLL shackle should have a deformation limit of 29,400N. Now that shackle will have a 13mm pin and a 0.75T WLL shackle only runs a 13.5mm pin. I’d run a 0.75T WLL for a little headspace.


    So although the legislation does not state you need to use a painted yellow rated shackle, it is incumbent on you as the operator to prove that the shackle you use is capable of withstanding 29,400N (for an up to 2T ATM trailer)

    The easiest way to make that proof is using a rated shackle!

    Now the chains, that’s easy! A Simple tiny 6mm grade 80 chain has a WLL of 1.1T. 6mm chain won’t eat a 13mm pin! Pretty much any chain that can fit a 13mm shackle pin will be wayyyy over rated for an up to 2T trailer.





    Vehicle Standards Bulletin 1
    Note Manufacturers should consider the merits of including a parking brake function when designing the braking system. ADR 38/03 clause 8 and 14 provides guidance for parking brake systems.

    16. DRAWBARS, SAFETY CHAINS, SAFETY CHAIN ATTACHMENTS AND COUPLINGS
    16.1Drawbars
    Drawbars must be securely attached to a substantial portion of the trailer.
    Drawbars must withstand the following forces applied at the centre of the intended coupling without detachment or any distortion or failure, which will affect the safe drawing of the towed trailer:
    Longitudinal tension and compression (N) 1.5 x 9.81 x ATM (kg)
    Transverse thrust (N) 0.5 x 9.81 x ATM (kg)
    Vertical tension and compression for rigid drawbar trailer (N) 0.5 x 9.81 x ATM (kg) (For further information, refer to ADR 62/01 clause 14)
    16.2Drawbar Safety Chains
    All pig trailers with rigid drawbars (with or without breakaway brakes – but excluding converter dollies) and, any other trailer without breakaway brakes, must be fitted with safety chains that are marked in accordance with the relevant Australian Standard and (or cables as applicable) complying with the following:
    trailers that do not exceed 2.5 tonnes ATM must have at least one safety chain complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.4-2004 ‘Caravan and light trailer towing components – Part 4: Safety chains up to 3500kg capacity’, or be a safety cable with a certified load capacity of the same;
    trailers over 2.5 tonnes and not exceed 3.5 tonnes ATM must have two safety chains of designation of 3500 kg complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.4–2004; trailers over 3.5 tonnes ATM must have two safety chains made from steel of a minimum 800 MPa breaking stress that conforms to the mechanical properties of Grade T chain as specified in Australian Standard AS 2321-1979 ‘Short Link Chain for Lifting Purposes (non calibrated) or Australian Standard AS 2321–2006 Short Link Chain for Lifting Purposes. Each chain must be sized such that the minimum breaking load exceeds the ATM.
    (For further information, refer to ADR 62/01 clause 14)
    16.3 Drawbar Safety Chain Attachment Points
    Safety chain attachment points are the means by which the safety chains are attached to the drawbar. These points must be located as near as practicable to the tow coupling. Where two points of attachment are required, they must be mounted one on either side of the centreline of the drawbar.
    Each safety chain attachment point must be capable of withstanding the following minimum forces without incurring either any residual deformation that would interfere or degrade the function of the assembly, or any breaks, cracks or separation of components:
    VSB 1 – Revision 5 Page 27 of 40 June 2009


    Caution
    welding.
    Safety chains, which have the mechanical T grade property, are not suitable for


    Vehicle Standards Bulletin 1
    Longitudinal tension and compression (N) 1.5 x 9.81 x ATM (in kg) Vertical tension and compression (N) 0.5 x 9.81 x ATM (in kg).
    (For further information, refer to ADR 62/01 clause 14)

    Caution Load levelling bars should only be used with towbars designed for load levelling. Very high forces can be generated when the vehicle and trailer combination travels through dips in the roadway. These high forces may exceed the design limits of the towbar and or its mountings.


    Caution Drawbar safety chain attachment points should not come into contact with the road surface when the trailer is disconnected.
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    Very comprehensive....a good guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post

    Unlike vehicle registration standards which can vary on year of production, these standards are legislated for ALL trailers
    I cannot find any reference to these standards being fully retrospective.

    VSB1 seems to be for new trailers or imported trailers and is self regulating !

    The standards are based on the ADRs but are simpler and more practical to use. They offer a low-cost alternative, by eliminating the need for some of the more expensive forms of vehicle testing and evidence that are required under the ADRs.
    Road trailers that meet the standards of this bulletin do not need to be certified by the Australian Government, and do not need to be issued with an identification plate or a used import plate. That is, manufacturers and importers are exempt from the need to apply to the Australian Government and submit detailed evidence based on the ADRs.

    Rather, manufacturers and importers merely need to seek road registration from the relevant State or Territory registering authority. It is the responsibility of the manufacture or importer to ensure that the trailer meets the standards as set out in this bulletin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I cannot find any reference to these standards being fully retrospective.

    VSB1 seems to be for new trailers or imported trailers and is self regulating !

    The standards are based on the ADRs but are simpler and more practical to use. They offer a low-cost alternative, by eliminating the need for some of the more expensive forms of vehicle testing and evidence that are required under the ADRs.
    Road trailers that meet the standards of this bulletin do not need to be certified by the Australian Government, and do not need to be issued with an identification plate or a used import plate. That is, manufacturers and importers are exempt from the need to apply to the Australian Government and submit detailed evidence based on the ADRs.

    Rather, manufacturers and importers merely need to seek road registration from the relevant State or Territory registering authority. It is the responsibility of the manufacture or importer to ensure that the trailer meets the standards as set out in this bulletin.


    Colin
    While not retrospective for existing registered trailers, there are certain requirements that are retrospective to older trailers and vans that are being re registered. Only lighting and reflectors though as far as VicRoads are concerned - they will make you upgrade and old van, etc to new requirements - had this twice, but easy and cheap fixes, nothing else seems to bother them.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    some stencil work & voila , Trailer can officially carry 2200kg , that should keep plod happy



    Okiedoke, mods done ,



    Lightweight is sitting in the forward 109 position, old image in inset picture shows original position. Now instead of the 109 rear wheel sitting right on the rear edge its will now be about 450mm forward of rear edge, much better & safer in terms of weight distribution.

    I think I'll have issues reversing around corners, in terms of crunching the front of the 109 on the trucks spare wheels, I'll have to be very careful and take small bites at backing into position to unload.

    Garage ramps are better than trailer ramps as lighter and less unladen weight, can keep them in the truck. (the lightweight can just drive up without them )

    Bad idea leaving the spare wheel there, need to unload to access it, not thought out too well !!



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    Looks solid GB and I’m sure you’ll be fine now

    I like your choice of max load
    Like a good lawyer be vague !!!
    I guess only issue is that assuming you mean ATM of 2500kg you now need break-away brakes in every Aus jurisdiction???

    I’m sure you could argue on previously registered trailers not having to meet VSB1 but since it is so friggen easy to make reflectors / lighting and chains / hitches meet VSB1 I’m not really sure why you wouldn’t.

    Also not sure how your rego works but in Qld ATM is stated on the document so a stencilled loaf rating is irrelevant if the plates are for a registered ATM of 2000kg?

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    I had previously fitted 4x electric brakes and a breakaway setup. How I came about the 2200kg figure is from
    the trailer having 2 x 45mm square Axles , Trailer catalogue says 45mm = 1500kg so Im guessing 3000 kg ATM less ~800kg = 2200 kg Load . ( trailer is more like 700kg but i left room for error)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    some stencil work & voila , Trailer can officially carry 2200kg , that should keep plod happy
    All those mods to collect a bargain, we've all been there.......

    Looking good.

    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post

    I’m sure you could argue on previously registered trailers not having to meet VSB1 but since it is so friggen easy to make reflectors / lighting and chains / hitches meet VSB1 I’m not really sure why you wouldn’t.
    Why spend extra time & money to replace parts when it's not needed ?




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    Understood your self declaring a 3000kg ATM and by the sounds of it would likely meet VSB1 (apart from Bunnings safety chain !!!! )
    But what does your rego say?
    Is ATM declared on rego and compliance plate on trailer or is that a Qld thing.

    Oh and as to why changing things to meet the standard even if it seems excessive - so as NOT to draw undue attention. Why give mr plod the chance to start looking at compliance plates etc because interest was piqued by the lights being too high/low/narrow???

    Now when it comes to actual mechanical strength - that is one thing I wouldn’t compromise on
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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post

    Oh and as to why changing things to meet the standard even if it seems excessive - so as NOT to draw undue attention. Why give mr plod the chance to start looking at compliance plates etc because interest was piqued by the lights being too high/low/narrow???
    So I'll make it comply to a VSB it doesn't need to comply with ?
    Well actually it needs to comply with the ADR's not a Bulletin.

    I tend to use rated shackles now because they are so cheap ( Chinese rated shackles, now there's a whole separate discussion !).


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