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    How to extend Drawbar tube on Army W/shop trailer

    Has anyone extended the tubular drawbar on an army trailer, mine is a '66 W/shop trailer and I was thinking of extending it, any ideas on how long is ideal and how to do it would be appreciated, Regards Frank.

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    I too have a workshop trailer (64). I'm curious as to why you would want to extend the draw bar as I reckon the Army Engineers would have put a lot of effort into getting the length right.
    I think the best way would be to get some steel tube with the outside diameter the same as the inside diameter as the draw bar and some more the same size as the draw bar. The larger tube would be cut to length you wish to extend the draw bar to and the smaller tube would go inside the extension piece and extend in both directions inside the cut sections of the draw bar and then suitably (professionally) welded. I'd still get a professional opinion on this method for all the usual reasons- safety, insurance etc.
    Do you still use the Pintle hook as there is a company in Brisvegas that makes a fully articulating hitch (similar to a treg) which eliminates all the NOISE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petemci View Post
    which eliminates all the NOISE.
    mine isnt noisy at all with a load in it.. :P
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    umm why would you want to when towed behind a 110 its perfect.


    but thats IMHO.
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    There was another essentially identical thread a month or so ago. Basically there were three opinions - 1) don't 2) trailer to rear wheel should = wheelbase of car and 3) as long as possible.

    I'm sticking with (1). It's a pain when reversing but otherwise keeps the trailer tucked in nicely, not too much bouncing and I've never been a fan of loading up the drawbar excessively. You do need to watch the balance of your load, though, so watch where you mount your tent.

    There is something to be said for (3) (and (2)) if, and only if, you use the trailer exclusively on-road. Off-road the shorter drawbar gives more manouverability.

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    Morris's extended drawbar and trailer

    1450mm from flange to front crossmember. sleeved with staem pipe, and definetly looks the goods!







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    I agree about the trailer's manners when towed behind a 110, but the noise I was referring to from the pintle hook was a lot more noticeable when towed by my 63 Shorty. Admittedly I have since removed quite a few leaves from the spring pack (each pack is rated at approx 2500kg) and the suspension actually moves now so therefore the ride is smoother.

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    Thanks for all the replies

    I'm sorry I didn't get to reply and thank you all till now, I had given up when I didn't get a reply over a few weeks.
    I did have another post on this subject elsewhere.
    I am actually going to remove the W/Shop body and sell it. I am going to build a Camper trailer to tow behind my Disco and it will be going everywhere the Disco goes and I know how good they tow off-road, the camper body and toolbox setup I was going to use would need some more room between the back of the Disco and the toolbox. Replies I've had at the other post (thanks Maurice and others) and those here have convinced me to leave the drawbar alone and build sliding draws underneath the camper body (but on top of the chassis), I will also be building fuel and water tanks front & rear of the axle, any ideas on tank positions would also be appreciated. I will also be buying a Poly-Block and shaft (I already have the half of the Treg Hitch that bolts to the tow bar tounge) from the Treg factory, the heavy duty one is the same diameter shaft as the Pintle ring shaft, so it will fit the original W/Shop housing. I am looking at 1/2 a tonne all up and was wondering how many leaves to take out of the spring pack for a better ride at this weight, Thanks in advance, Regards Frank.

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    It's a bit hard to judge how many leaves to remove on till you know what the final weight will be. I used a bit of judgment and removed alternate leaves which didn't affect the ride height too much but improved the suspension travel considerably. The dampers now actually work and the rig tows and handles well. I can post a picture of the finished pack if you're interested.

    You may have trouble getting the 500kg gross mass though. I had mine weighed, without the canvas and frame and it weighed 370kg so the chassis isn't particularly light, especially when you consider that the bodywork is based on the remains of a LWB tub and therefore made of Birmabright.
    Last edited by Red October; 9th August 2007 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petemci View Post
    It's a bit hard to judge how many leaves to remove on till you know what the final weight will be. I used a bit of judgment and removed alternate leaves which didn't affect the ride height too much but improved the suspension travel considerably. The dampers now actually work and the rig tows and handles well. I can post a picture of the finished pack if you're interested.

    You may have trouble getting the 500kg gross mass though. I had mine weighed, without the canvas and frame and it weighed 370kg so the chassis isn't particularly light, especially when you consider that the bodywork is based on the remains of a LWB tub and therefore made of Birmabright.
    petemci, I would appreciate some pics of your spring packs, I weighed mine and it weighed 390kgs with canvas and hoops, I will be buiding the camper out of aluminium, the tools, recovery gear, water and fuel will be the heaviest and I will do my best to keep it light, BTW what is Birmabright, Regards Frank.

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