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Thread: Fuel economy

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    harryw Guest

    Fuel economy

    I have just changed my Avan Cruiseliner for an Avan Euro Star which is a much more traditional shaped caravan.

    With the Cruiseliner at at steady 90kph using cruise control I would return around 11-12 L per 100km in my 02 TD5 Disco.

    On our first trip this weekend we returned about 17-18 L per 100km this time sitting on 80kph with the tacho hovering around the 2250 to 2500rpm on the level.

    It was not windy and the return trip to Cervantes is not hilly at all.

    Is this this sort of return I should get and if so is there anything I can consider doing to improve it?

    regards

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    It sounds like the torque converter wasn't remaining locked up. The lockup speed is 80km/h, so as you good above and below that speed it will lock and unlock. At 90km/h it will remain locked. That economy doesn't surprise me with an unlocked torque converter based on what I've done while towing a car trailer with a torque converter that wouldn't lock.
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    harryw Guest
    Thanks for that.

    This may be a dumb question but does this mean either

    1. The torque converter only locks at above 80kph so to achieve better fuel consumption I should drive faster, say 85-90kph, or

    2. I have a problem with the torque converter not locking up and it should be fixed at the next service which is scheduled for 3weeks time?



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    A 1 - yes >85 will keep it locked
    A 2 - possible but unlikly. to check put it in 3rd - converter should lockin over 70 in 3rd

    My experience is that the small diesels will drink fuel towing.....
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    I have a Avan cruiser I tow with a D1 TDi. I get about 11.5 lts/100ks with the cruise control. I generally travel about 10ks under the speed limit. This means I don't have to overtake too often & others travelling at the speed limit can pass. If I'm not travelling above 80ks I put it in 3rd. This stops the torque converter slipping. I would imagine your new van is heavier & a bit more wind resistance.
    Michael.

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    Very Nice

    I'd be inclined to try 90 again,,

    Wheres max torque on a TD5?



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    Mikems

    The TARE is 1700 compared to 1400 on the Cruiseliner and yes it is much larger so a drop in consumption was to be expected.

    I wouldn't have thought of dropping back to 3 at around 80 as I would have though the engine would have been working a lot harder.

    Up to now the fuel was courtesy of a company fuel card but now as I am about to retire and pull the van around OZ the fuel usage has a more significant impact on the pocket.

    I guess the next lot of test runs will be done @ 90kph in D and 80kph in 3 to see which fares the best.

    Many thanks to you Slunnie and harlie for your helpfull answers.


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    Pedro

    Ours is 4 years old but in immaculate condition and we absolutely love it and as we are going to spend 5 months up in Broome before starting extended trips we needed more space.

    We were sad to see the Cruiseliner go after 9 years but there is a big difference in using it for weekends and 2 week holiday trips compared to 5 months straight.

    The sad thing having been in the WA Avan club since 1997 we are no longer eligible for membership because we don't have a "pointy" van, but those are the rules and we have to accept that.

    We are going to the annual convention in Busselton next month as guests so we will be leaving on a high note in a gathering of around 230 pointy AVans.

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    Very Nice

    I'd be inclined to try 90 again,,

    Wheres max torque on a TD5?



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    hmm, does it reach peak torque before converter lock-up in top?
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

    '93 V8 Rossi
    '97 to '07. sold.
    '01 V8 D2
    '06 to 10. written off.
    '03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
    '10 to '21
    '16.5 RRS SDV8
    '21 to Infinity and Beyond!


    1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
    Home is where you park it..

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